+1 spell caster level alternative? [Archive] - Wizards Community

+1 spell caster level alternative? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Biomage
05-31-07, 09:42 PM I am making changes to a few PrCs that grant +1 to existing spell class level. As a replacement, I want to grant bonus feats. So, for a 10 level PrC, how many bonus feats should be used to replace the +1 to spellcasting level.

My thoughts, for a class that grants a +1 to spellcasting level at every level would recieve 3 bonus feats. A class that grants +1 to spellcasting level at every other level would get 2 bonus feats. I have not used a lot of these types of PrCs, so I am looking for some insight.

What are your opinions?
StevenO
06-01-07, 12:29 AM I have no idea what PrCs you want to take "+1 to spell casting level" away from. If the feats are restricted trade them 1 feat/2 casting levels similiar to fighter/wizard or cleric. Unrestricted feats should come at a rate faster than 1/3 caster levels.
Biomage
06-01-07, 11:38 PM I am using non-spell casting paladin rules in Complete Champion. Therefore, I want to allow the paladin access to certain prestige classes, such as Shining Sword of Heironeous. Since, the number of bonus feats a non-spellcasing paladin gets is 4, and there are 17 casting level, I figured that every 4 levels of spellcasting should equal about 1 feat.
StevenO
06-02-07, 12:52 AM I don't know many that would consider a Paladin's spellcasting to be the same value as say a cleric or wizard's spellcasting.

If you say a non-casting Paladin gets four bonus feats to make up for losing spellcasting remember that the paladin only gains 4 levels of spells which makes the trade effectively one spell level for one feat. If you can qualify for a +1 spellcasting PrC without spells I'd say you could just grant that feat at the time a Paladin would normally get a new spell level. I hope that makes sense.
Biomage
06-02-07, 10:04 AM If you can qualify for a +1 spellcasting PrC without spells I'd say you could just grant that feat at the time a Paladin would normally get a new spell level. I hope that makes sense.

That makes a lot of sense. I just didn't know if it would make a PrC overpowered. Thanks.

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Biomage 05-31-07, 09:42 PM	I am making changes to a few PrCs that grant +1 to existing spell class level. As a replacement, I want to grant bonus feats. So, for a 10 level PrC, how many bonus feats should be used to replace the +1 to spellcasting level. My thoughts, for a class that grants a +1 to spellcasting level at every level would recieve 3 bonus feats. A class that grants +1 to spellcasting level at every other level would get 2 bonus feats. I have not used a lot of these types of PrCs, so I am looking for some insight. What are your opinions?
StevenO 06-01-07, 12:29 AM	I have no idea what PrCs you want to take "+1 to spell casting level" away from. If the feats are restricted trade them 1 feat/2 casting levels similiar to fighter/wizard or cleric. Unrestricted feats should come at a rate faster than 1/3 caster levels.
Biomage 06-01-07, 11:38 PM	I am using non-spell casting paladin rules in Complete Champion. Therefore, I want to allow the paladin access to certain prestige classes, such as Shining Sword of Heironeous. Since, the number of bonus feats a non-spellcasing paladin gets is 4, and there are 17 casting level, I figured that every 4 levels of spellcasting should equal about 1 feat.
StevenO 06-02-07, 12:52 AM	I don't know many that would consider a Paladin's spellcasting to be the same value as say a cleric or wizard's spellcasting. If you say a non-casting Paladin gets four bonus feats to make up for losing spellcasting remember that the paladin only gains 4 levels of spells which makes the trade effectively one spell level for one feat. If you can qualify for a +1 spellcasting PrC without spells I'd say you could just grant that feat at the time a Paladin would normally get a new spell level. I hope that makes sense.
Biomage 06-02-07, 10:04 AM	If you can qualify for a +1 spellcasting PrC without spells I'd say you could just grant that feat at the time a Paladin would normally get a new spell level. I hope that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. I just didn't know if it would make a PrC overpowered. Thanks.