Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DwarvenHeir 06-22-07, 10:02 PM	ok so i have developed my favorite character yet. A 6/4/10 Barbarian/Frenzied Berserker/ Bear Warrior. As far as the ruling is concerned: How does rage/frenzy stack? or do they stack? Also when entering "bear mode" does it take into account the one of the "rages" or does it overcome both and make a higher bonus? I also have a goliath fighter/dervish with the monkey grip feat and TWF and ITWF, at this point i believe that i would be able to wield a Huge scimitar in the MH as a light weapon and a Large scimitar in the OH without incurring a giant bonus, my question is: Will oversided two weapon fighting allow me to upgrade the OH scimitar to a Huge weapon and will it be considered a light weapon according to the dervish class ability? Also would it be fesable to upgrade the MH to a gargantuan scimitar to be treated as a one handed weapon? I know its a lot of stuff but I appreciate any contributions you will make :D
Traverse 06-22-07, 10:26 PM	Before anyone blasts in I'll go ahead and point out that Monkey Grip and the powerful build class feature don't stack. No huge weapons without the nice huge detriment to rolls. Since powerful build and Monkey Grip both reference your actual size without changing it, they can't stack. It's like having two step ladders that let you reach ten feet up; you can stand on both of them if you want, but it isn't going to let you reach any higher.
Morwen 06-22-07, 10:27 PM	The "frenzy" ability of the Frenzied Berserker specifically states the benefits from frenzy stack with the benefits of rage. The "bear form" ability of the Bear Warrior specifically states the ability score bonuses granted by rage/frenzy are replaced by the bear form. Monkey Grip and Powerful Build do not stack.
DwarvenHeir 06-22-07, 10:51 PM	ok, well since monkey grip doesnt stack, does oversized two weapon fighting? since the dervish class skill puts a scimitar as a light weapon, then does the large scimitar i wield from the powerful build stay light and if so can i use a huge scimitar as a one hander and with OTWF a huge scimitar as an offhand? if so would i just take the normal penalties to attack? if possible could you give the attack penalties for the MH and OH? also to Morwen, thank you for your imput, i should have realized that rage and frenzy stack. However, when going bear at lvl 20, would i get the 20 str, 2 dex and 8 con twice since i have both frenzy and rage going? or would i only get the bonuses once and the other stays normal? thanks again for your help
Morwen 06-22-07, 11:02 PM	also to Morwen, thank you for your imput, i should have realized that rage and frenzy stack. However, when going bear at lvl 20, would i get the 20 str, 2 dex and 8 con twice since i have both frenzy and rage going? or would i only get the bonuses once and the other stays normal? thanks again for your help You would only get the bear form bonuses once, and you would lose both the rage bonuses and the frenzy bonuses (if you were in both simultaneously).
DwarvenHeir 06-22-07, 11:06 PM	ok in that case is it possible to rage, enter bear mode, and then frenzy?
DwarvenHeir 06-23-07, 05:25 PM	any help? also, would a large size scimitar for a goliath dervish be considered a light weapon? if thats the case would OTWF mean that i could wield 2 huge scimitars? and what would be the dmg penalty? it would be greatly appreciated :)
deviknyte 06-24-07, 01:58 PM	Thank god they don't stack, but does anyone have precedent for it? Also would they stack with abilities/magic that make something count as a size higher or is that a totally different thing? If they don't, precedent?