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Light_Colonel 05-23-07, 03:36 PM	Ok, the contestants: Assassin (DMG) - the tried and true, plain old evil Assassin. Imaskari Vengeance Taker (Und) - Don't have to be evil. But essentially just an Assassin. Slightly different powers make it slightly more interesting. Stonedeath Assassin (RoS) - Goblinoid only Assassin with the pretty flashy effect of turning their target to stone. Thanks to The Shaman for this - Dark Hunter (CWarrior?) - better darkvision, full BAB, 5 levels with +1d6 sneak attack and death attack. Teflammar Shadowlord (Unapproachable East) - Shadowdancer meets assassin. No SA progression, but death attack, some very useful abilities, including making full attack after a shadow jump, and the most ALDI spellcasting I've seen. Demanding (4 feats, casting/template/Shadowdancer levels), but can be quite powerful imo Shattered Peak Cultist (Lost Empires of Faerun) - killing mages is dangerous business, and these folks are up to it. For me it was the best, alongside with the Vengeance Taker (though I wish it would have a slightly better progression). Black Flame Zealot (Unapproachable East / Complete Divine) - combination of cleric and assassin, basically the DMG assassin with a continuation of the divine progression, non-good alignment and ways to make sure the enemy stays dead. Thanks to Lotus Crane for adding - Psychic Assassin (Secrets of Sarlona) - Replaces the standard Assassin's arcane spellcasting with an equal level of psionic manifesting. I am sure there are others, so please let me know which I have missed! Which do you think is the best?
The_Shaman 05-23-07, 03:50 PM	Dark Hunter (CWarrior?) - better darkvision, full BAB, 5 levels with +1d6 sneak attack and death attack. Teflammar Shadowlord (Unapproachable East) - Shadowdancer meets assassin. No SA progression, but death attack, some very useful abilities, including making full attack after a shadow jump, and the most ALDI spellcasting I've seen. Demanding (4 feats, casting/template/Shadowdancer levels), but can be quite powerful imo Shattered Peak Cultist (Lost Empires of Faerun) - killing mages is dangerous business, and these folks are up to it. For me it was the best, alongside with the Vengeance Taker (though I wish it would have a slightly better progression). Black Flame Zealot (Unapproachable East / Complete Divine) - combination of cleric and assassin, basically the DMG assassin with a continuation of the divine progression, non-good alignment and ways to make sure the enemy stays dead.
Lotus Crane 05-24-07, 11:15 AM	Psychic Assassin (Secrets of Sarlona) - Replaces the standard Assassin's arcane spellcasting with an equal level of psionic manifesting. And are you looking only for official materials, or is home brew acceptable as well? In which case... Fire Emblem Assassin (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=725793) (myself) - Removes spellcasting and poison abilities for a more dedicated combat specialist. Check it out for yourself: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=725793
Alyss 05-25-07, 08:30 AM	I still prefer the basic Assassin. He's straightforward and just geberally cool.
Ecalsneerg 05-25-07, 08:34 AM	The Avenger (In prestige classes in the articles section). A sort of 'good' assassin, like a government sanctioned one.
The Simbul 05-26-07, 05:41 PM	I prefer to combine them. One of my preferences for an Unapproachable East campaign is: human shadow-walker Rogue 5/Assassin 8/Teflammar Shadowlord 6; ECL 20; with Ability Focus (Death Attack), Craft Wand, Quicken Spell-like Ability (dimension door), maxed INT, and a pair of assassin's dagger style variants in (dual-wielded) weapons of choice. Two full attacks in one round is pretty nasty.
IntOblivion 05-27-07, 09:58 AM	Definetly the combination of Rogue/Assassin/Shadow Dancer, allways worked for my pretty little killers in disguise :evillaugh
Duedaine 05-27-07, 11:53 AM	is there a feat that makes death attack work on creatures that it wouldn't normally work on, ie undead?
Flay Crimsonwind 05-27-07, 05:18 PM	is there a feat that makes death attack work on creatures that it wouldn't normally work on, ie undead?Or reducing the time to study? That'd be pretty badass! I'd go Rogue 5 / Shadowdancer 6 / Assassin 2 / Teflammar Shadowlord 7 A Fun lil combo I worked out a while back. Worked pretty well, and ironically enough was the part face, since none saw his "actions" otherwise!
NightOwl 06-05-07, 12:11 PM	Or reducing the time to study? That'd be pretty badass! Goggles of Scrutiny (Dragon Magazine #330, p68) +2 to Search and Spot, 2 rounds to study for death attack instead of 3 Takes up the face slot Reqs: Craft WI, Clairaudience / Clairvoyance 12,000 gp
Encard 06-05-07, 10:05 PM	Of those listed, I'd definitely say a Shadowdancer with a multipouncer build. Three or four full attacks against a flat-footed enemy, in the surprise round no less, seems a lot more effective than hoping your Death Attack DC is high enough. Alternately, the Soulknife could make a very nice assassin in some settings. At higher levels, you'll be able to do 15 (maybe more, I can't recall) Int, Wis or Cha damage in the first round - that's enough to drop most folks, and then you can coup de grace.
Nat_20 06-05-07, 10:09 PM	artemis entreri :bounce: i think the slandered assassin is cool, but i wanna see a variant of it without spells, instead give him cool abilities or something...
Dex 06-05-07, 11:04 PM	There's a class from Book Of Exalted Deeds: The Slayer of Domiel, who uses the assassin's skill set for good. Also, there's a Monk of the Long Death, who has a Death touch and other abilities that make him hard to track down.
Sleepwalker13666 06-05-07, 11:08 PM	Cloaked Dancer (Complete Scoundrel) :D
Yosho 06-06-07, 12:06 AM	You forgot the Gost faced killer from complete adventurer. Full BAB, etherealness, invisibility, and a will save death attack that you don't need to wait for. Whats not to love about this class?