Daggerspell Mage [Archive] - Wizards Community

Daggerspell Mage [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
sally_jones
06-21-07, 01:43 AM hey folks, i'm running a game and i have a player who wants to be a daggerspell mage. his chosen race is the spellscale from races of the dragon. does anyone have suggestions i can give him on standard classes.
The_Shaman
06-21-07, 02:39 AM The SA prerequisite might be a bit unpleasant, I guess. Practiced spellcaster works to boost his caster level if he wants to qualify early. After that, it is a matter of preferences imo. However, if he doesn't mind having a slightly more limited number of spells known, the battle sorcerer (unearthed arcana / SRD) or the stalwart sorcerer from CMage may be options for him to be a little more durable. Spellscales had a bonus to charisma, right?
sally_jones
06-21-07, 05:05 PM +2 cha -2 con, its a dragon heavy setting (custom)
The_Shaman
06-21-07, 05:19 PM OK, then I think battle sorc or stalwart sorc become really useful. All sorcerer abilities (incl dragonpact) are retained as they are variants, and daggerspell mages tend to be near the frontlines if they want to use their signature skills.
teshen
06-21-07, 07:30 PM I don't know how battle oriented he wants to be starting out... but rogue 1/sorcerer 3/rogue 1/unseen seer x to daggerspell mage could be doable... it might be too feat intensive, though. I think unseen seer just takes lots of skill ranks, which levels in rogue handle, and then unseen seer boosts casting and sneak attack until you qualify for daggerspell mage.

If you can swing it, I recommend some sort of cheesiness to persist wraithstrike as soon as possible. That will make hitting in combat that much easier.
sally_jones
06-22-07, 12:35 AM what book is unseen seer in?
The_Shaman
06-22-07, 03:20 AM CMage. I am a little wary of it though... The feature that boosts your caster level for divinations and weakens it for anything else is not for everyone.
sally_jones
06-22-07, 12:36 PM that divination boost does seems a lil shady but ill look into it. thx for the input. anymore is welcome.
Zelin
06-22-07, 12:52 PM I've thought about the unseen seer's adaption which is to switch the focus from divination to illusion which should fit better with the daggerspell's up close and personal approach.
sally_jones
06-22-07, 03:49 PM that sounds cool. i like that.
Marcus Majarra
06-22-07, 04:50 PM I don't remember the fine details of the Daggerspell Mage, but if it requires sneak attack, I would recommend you gain the ability through spellthief levels. With the Master Spellthief feat from Complete Mage, you remain quite an able spellcaster despite the multiclassing. Plus you can steal high level spells from your opponents.
teshen
06-23-07, 11:58 AM CMage. I am a little wary of it though... The feature that boosts your caster level for divinations and weakens it for anything else is not for everyone.
True... but that's nothing being an Illumian (Races of Destiny) or the feat Practiced Caster (Complete Divine) can't handle. ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sally_jones 06-21-07, 01:43 AM	hey folks, i'm running a game and i have a player who wants to be a daggerspell mage. his chosen race is the spellscale from races of the dragon. does anyone have suggestions i can give him on standard classes.
The_Shaman 06-21-07, 02:39 AM	The SA prerequisite might be a bit unpleasant, I guess. Practiced spellcaster works to boost his caster level if he wants to qualify early. After that, it is a matter of preferences imo. However, if he doesn't mind having a slightly more limited number of spells known, the battle sorcerer (unearthed arcana / SRD) or the stalwart sorcerer from CMage may be options for him to be a little more durable. Spellscales had a bonus to charisma, right?
sally_jones 06-21-07, 05:05 PM	+2 cha -2 con, its a dragon heavy setting (custom)
The_Shaman 06-21-07, 05:19 PM	OK, then I think battle sorc or stalwart sorc become really useful. All sorcerer abilities (incl dragonpact) are retained as they are variants, and daggerspell mages tend to be near the frontlines if they want to use their signature skills.
teshen 06-21-07, 07:30 PM	I don't know how battle oriented he wants to be starting out... but rogue 1/sorcerer 3/rogue 1/unseen seer x to daggerspell mage could be doable... it might be too feat intensive, though. I think unseen seer just takes lots of skill ranks, which levels in rogue handle, and then unseen seer boosts casting and sneak attack until you qualify for daggerspell mage. If you can swing it, I recommend some sort of cheesiness to persist wraithstrike as soon as possible. That will make hitting in combat that much easier.
sally_jones 06-22-07, 12:35 AM	what book is unseen seer in?
The_Shaman 06-22-07, 03:20 AM	CMage. I am a little wary of it though... The feature that boosts your caster level for divinations and weakens it for anything else is not for everyone.
sally_jones 06-22-07, 12:36 PM	that divination boost does seems a lil shady but ill look into it. thx for the input. anymore is welcome.
Zelin 06-22-07, 12:52 PM	I've thought about the unseen seer's adaption which is to switch the focus from divination to illusion which should fit better with the daggerspell's up close and personal approach.
sally_jones 06-22-07, 03:49 PM	that sounds cool. i like that.
Marcus Majarra 06-22-07, 04:50 PM	I don't remember the fine details of the Daggerspell Mage, but if it requires sneak attack, I would recommend you gain the ability through spellthief levels. With the Master Spellthief feat from Complete Mage, you remain quite an able spellcaster despite the multiclassing. Plus you can steal high level spells from your opponents.
teshen 06-23-07, 11:58 AM	CMage. I am a little wary of it though... The feature that boosts your caster level for divinations and weakens it for anything else is not for everyone. True... but that's nothing being an Illumian (Races of Destiny) or the feat Practiced Caster (Complete Divine) can't handle. ;)