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LegacyKing 06-06-07, 12:07 AM	Well the title sums it up pretty well. If I'm a non-cleric class that takes the Divine Oracle PrC, do I gain the domain and all incumbent powers? Reading the description, I'm inclined to say no, but I wanted the general group take on it. Thanks, LK
JulesCARV 06-06-07, 12:14 AM	The rules for this are in Complete Divine -- I don't have it with me at the moment, but if I recall correctly: -you gain the granted power of the domain -you add the spells to your class's spell list, but do not automatically know those spells. For example, if you're a sorcerer, you have to learn augury as a spell known normally, taking up a "slot" for 2nd level spells known, and don't know it automatically. If you're a wizard, you have to find a scroll and scribe it into your spellbook. -you do not gain extra domain slots -You can cast spells known from your domain once per day at each spell level; if you're a wizard, you can cast augury once per day, divination once per day, etc. Don't take my word for it, though. The rules should be near the beginning of CDiv, so look those up instead.
NoldorForce 06-06-07, 11:33 AM	JulesCARV is partly correct. The full spiel: In all cases, you get the granted power of the domain. You gain no spell slots. If you prepare spells, you can prepare one domain spell per level. If you also prepare spells from a spellbook or similar limited-part-of-your-spell-list source, you will need to scribe the spells to it. This potentially requires divine scrolls, which you're allowed to use if it's your only recourse. (However, archivists don't need to care much, considering that domain spells are already on their spell lists.) If you cast spells spontaneously, you may choose the domain spells to be spells known. Unlike preparatory casters, you have no additional limit on how often you can cast these domain spells beyond your normal class-granted limits (ie, spell slots).
LegacyKing 06-07-07, 03:34 AM	Thanks to both of you. I looked it up and found the full spiel. Unfortunately the reply from CustServ was way off-base [not knocking them, they have a tough job]. If I hadn't been pointed to the proper location in the book I'd have been following this advice here: Response (Support Agent) 06/06/2007 08:34 AM Andrew, The character that takes the Divine Oracle PrC must have the ability to cast Domain Spells (i.e. be a Cleric) to benefit from this class feature. Good Gaming! - I'll reply to the CustServ with the page reference. It's unfortunate when rules aren't easy to find. Thanks again for the prompt replies. LK aka Andrew
Treymordin 06-07-07, 08:36 AM	The text in the book does not state that.
goawayugh 06-07-07, 11:01 AM	Thanks to both of you. I looked it up and found the full spiel. Unfortunately the reply from CustServ was way off-base [not knocking them, they have a tough job]. If I hadn't been pointed to the proper location in the book I'd have been following this advice here: Response (Support Agent) 06/06/2007 08:34 AM Andrew, The character that takes the Divine Oracle PrC must have the ability to cast Domain Spells (i.e. be a Cleric) to benefit from this class feature. Good Gaming! - I'll reply to the CustServ with the page reference. It's unfortunate when rules aren't easy to find. Thanks again for the prompt replies. LK aka Andrew And this is why CustServ should never be trusted. I've heard of them giving some weird/wrong answers, but this one takes the cake. It says right in the book what to do about non-clerics.