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Arminel

06-27-07, 04:26 PM
...yeah.

It started with the idea of using the Duskblade's Arcane Channeling ability with a Lasher's Crack of Doom (Flurry) ability and a whip's long range. Then, I thought to expand a little to add a bit more.

So here's how I imagined it:

Duskblade 13 / Swashbuckler 3 / Lasher 3 / Duelist 1

Note: That is the final build. It uses the Sword and Fist version of Duelist. The build focuses on strength and intelligence. The requirements for Duelist in Sword and Fist are easier (Dodge, Mobility, Proficiency Rapier, Ambidexterity), but even using the 3.5 version we'll be fine.

Human - Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Whip
Swashbuckler1 - Weapon Finesse
Duskblade2 - Combat Casting
Level 1 - Weapon Focus: Whip
Level 3 - Dodge
Level 6 - Mobility

So, in theory, from level 6, either prestige class can be taken.
13 levels of Duskblade for Arcane Channeling (full attack), spells, etc.
3 levels of Lasher to get Close Combat, Wound, Improved Trip, Whip Lash, Whip Sneak Attack +1d6, Third Hand, and Crack of Fate (Flurry with a whip).
3 levels of Swashbuckler to add your Intelligence bonus to your damage rolls.
1 level of Duelist to add your Intelligence bonus to your armor class.

The only two things I feel like I'm missing the the +2 damage rolls for 4th level Lasher and getting +1d6 Precise Strike from 2nd level of Duelist. I know this must be the oddest build anyone has seen, but it sounded like fun. In total, you've got:

Full (+20/+15/+10/+5) Fighter's base attack bonus.
Fort +11, Reflex +10, Will +8 base saves.
4th-level Spells (13th caster level)
Intelligence bonus used for Spells, Damage Rolls, and unarmored AC.
Quick Cast 2/day
Spell Power +3
+1d6 Whip Sneak Attack
Can do normal damage to anyone with a whip.
Can make AoOs with your whip.
Free Improved Trip.
Crack of Fate (Extra attack per round at highest bonus, -2 to all attacks)

Items: the "Sweeping" weapon ability from Magic of Faerun gives you a +4 strength bonus for trip attacks. Unfortunately, I don't believe the "Distance" ability (or the Far Shot feat) could reasonably apply to a whip, which would just kick ass for this kind of build.

Other Feats: Power Attack (like other Duskblades), Point Blank Shot, Combat Expertise -> Improved Disarm, or some others.

Last look: In hindsight, I think wearing armor and forgoing the level of Duelist in favor of a 4th level of Lasher might be a better idea. The problem is that Insightful Strike doesn't work in Medium or Heavy armor, so perhaps a magical Mithril Breastplate? Please be nice to me. Suggestions and constructive criticism is appreciative. I did like the idea of using Arcane Channeling (full attack) at a 15-foot (20-foot if Large-sized) range, and this seemed to do the trick while maintaining a strong build.
Majick

06-28-07, 10:59 AM
umm, doesn't the bonus fro intelligence only work for things like rapiers?
Arminel

06-28-07, 07:52 PM
It actually works on any weapon that can be finessable, whether you are using Finesse with it at the time or not.