Good base class for the chameleon? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Good base class for the chameleon? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Sir_Chivalry
03-17-08, 08:23 PM The title really says it all, the prestige is at this link http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20041210b&page=1

I have access to Core and Complete, so go ahead, do your moderately worst.:cool:
Salla
03-17-08, 08:24 PM Well, if you have access to Dungeonscape, I'd have to say the Factotum.
Rymosrac
03-18-08, 12:22 AM And if you don't have access to Dungeonscape. . .

Still the Factotum.
Pandapeep
03-18-08, 12:49 AM Factorum, thirded.
The_Shaman
03-18-08, 07:29 PM Meh, I can live with a rogue. I like rogues. Then again, an urban ranger/ chameleon can also be kinda cute.

Hey, speaking of rangers, would a chameleon levels count as wizard levels when you're imitating a wizard for the Sword of the Arcane Order feat?
RadicalTaoist
03-18-08, 07:49 PM Binder (need the City Slicker feat to qualify without multiclassing) and Warlock are quirky alternatives.
JulesCARV
03-18-08, 08:27 PM In addition to rogue, bard or beguiler works well. Cleric with the trickery domain -- preferrably cloistered cleric -- also works. Psion (shaper) would make an interesting choice, although I don't think it's a particularly good idea.

Rogue/ranger could work too. For instance, rogue 4/ranger 6/chameleon 10 is good if you want to maintain good skill points and end with +16 base attack bonus.

Playing a base caster does have the slight advantage of allowing you to turn your floating feat into an item creation feat (ability focus (divine) or ability focus (arcane) doesn't); a bard or cloistered cleric 5 could use the floating feat to have craft wondrous item when that's needed, craft wand when that's needed, and craft magical arms and armor when that's needed, or brew potion or scribe scroll. Not a big deal if you aren't into crafting or don't have much down time, but if you do, it'd be handy.

Overall, I'd probably go with rogue.
runestar
03-18-08, 08:30 PM If you are a warlock, a 2-lv dip in chameleon is very useful, since you can use its bonus feat to access any item creation feat you want in the game (very invaluable in tandem with imbue item feature).:)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sir_Chivalry 03-17-08, 08:23 PM	The title really says it all, the prestige is at this link http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20041210b&page=1 I have access to Core and Complete, so go ahead, do your moderately worst.:cool:
Salla 03-17-08, 08:24 PM	Well, if you have access to Dungeonscape, I'd have to say the Factotum.
Rymosrac 03-18-08, 12:22 AM	And if you don't have access to Dungeonscape. . . Still the Factotum.
Pandapeep 03-18-08, 12:49 AM	Factorum, thirded.
The_Shaman 03-18-08, 07:29 PM	Meh, I can live with a rogue. I like rogues. Then again, an urban ranger/ chameleon can also be kinda cute. Hey, speaking of rangers, would a chameleon levels count as wizard levels when you're imitating a wizard for the Sword of the Arcane Order feat?
RadicalTaoist 03-18-08, 07:49 PM	Binder (need the City Slicker feat to qualify without multiclassing) and Warlock are quirky alternatives.
JulesCARV 03-18-08, 08:27 PM	In addition to rogue, bard or beguiler works well. Cleric with the trickery domain -- preferrably cloistered cleric -- also works. Psion (shaper) would make an interesting choice, although I don't think it's a particularly good idea. Rogue/ranger could work too. For instance, rogue 4/ranger 6/chameleon 10 is good if you want to maintain good skill points and end with +16 base attack bonus. Playing a base caster does have the slight advantage of allowing you to turn your floating feat into an item creation feat (ability focus (divine) or ability focus (arcane) doesn't); a bard or cloistered cleric 5 could use the floating feat to have craft wondrous item when that's needed, craft wand when that's needed, and craft magical arms and armor when that's needed, or brew potion or scribe scroll. Not a big deal if you aren't into crafting or don't have much down time, but if you do, it'd be handy. Overall, I'd probably go with rogue.
runestar 03-18-08, 08:30 PM	If you are a warlock, a 2-lv dip in chameleon is very useful, since you can use its bonus feat to access any item creation feat you want in the game (very invaluable in tandem with imbue item feature).:)