Illithid savant [Archive] - Wizards Community

Illithid savant [Archive] - Wizards Community

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wtj67
11-06-07, 08:12 PM I need Help.

The Aquire Class feature states that if the victum was a spellcaster you can steal one spell per level, but how many times per day can they be cast? Is it once per day each plus any bonus spells for higher Stat bonus or is it as many times per day that the person could?
Cainin
11-08-07, 09:23 AM It's been about a couple of years since I had to adjudicate over one, so bear with my rusty memory.

If I remember correctly, the x1 spell per spell level is like gaining bonus spell slots. They can used be used 1/day. I don't think they qualify for bonus spells. Or at least that was how I ran the ability.
strenoth
11-09-07, 01:37 AM it states right in the ability "As well as any bonus spells provides by the illithid savants ability scores"

Ok, so you definitely get one slot per spell level the caster coudl cast, plus ability score slots. And it reads to me that you get one spell of each level that you can cast out of those slots.

and further more.. it looks like, say, you get this twice, and they are both from sorcerers, say, 11th level and 15th level. It appears you get two sets of slots, set A being 11th level, and only being able to use spells known from the 11th level sorcerer, and set B being 15th level, and only usable for the set of spells stolen from that sorcerer.

A wizard offers more flexibility, as you can always just learn his spell book. so if you eat 2 wizards and get their spel casting, you get two sets of wizard spells, and you can learn both spell books.

this is of course rather broken, as you get ability score bonuses for each set of slots.

I think I'm going to rule that instead, you always use the higher level of identical-class casters as yoru base for number of spells slots, then add a flat +1 to the set per spell level each weaker caster of the same class coudl cast, and just add together the extra set of known spells. using the above sorcerers:

you would have one spells slot for levels 0-7, + ability score bonus slots, + one spell slot for levels 0-5. You would know two spells for each level 0-5 (one from each sorcerer) and one 6th & one 7th level spell.
Dex
11-09-07, 03:04 AM Actually, I think you can only learn a special ability once, and if you "eat" some other wizard's spellcasting you only get the higher of the two. I might be wrong, though. Like how eating two "Evasion" skills doesn't give more saves or less damage or anything.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
wtj67 11-06-07, 08:12 PM	I need Help. The Aquire Class feature states that if the victum was a spellcaster you can steal one spell per level, but how many times per day can they be cast? Is it once per day each plus any bonus spells for higher Stat bonus or is it as many times per day that the person could?
Cainin 11-08-07, 09:23 AM	It's been about a couple of years since I had to adjudicate over one, so bear with my rusty memory. If I remember correctly, the x1 spell per spell level is like gaining bonus spell slots. They can used be used 1/day. I don't think they qualify for bonus spells. Or at least that was how I ran the ability.
strenoth 11-09-07, 01:37 AM	it states right in the ability "As well as any bonus spells provides by the illithid savants ability scores" Ok, so you definitely get one slot per spell level the caster coudl cast, plus ability score slots. And it reads to me that you get one spell of each level that you can cast out of those slots. and further more.. it looks like, say, you get this twice, and they are both from sorcerers, say, 11th level and 15th level. It appears you get two sets of slots, set A being 11th level, and only being able to use spells known from the 11th level sorcerer, and set B being 15th level, and only usable for the set of spells stolen from that sorcerer. A wizard offers more flexibility, as you can always just learn his spell book. so if you eat 2 wizards and get their spel casting, you get two sets of wizard spells, and you can learn both spell books. this is of course rather broken, as you get ability score bonuses for each set of slots. I think I'm going to rule that instead, you always use the higher level of identical-class casters as yoru base for number of spells slots, then add a flat +1 to the set per spell level each weaker caster of the same class coudl cast, and just add together the extra set of known spells. using the above sorcerers: you would have one spells slot for levels 0-7, + ability score bonus slots, + one spell slot for levels 0-5. You would know two spells for each level 0-5 (one from each sorcerer) and one 6th & one 7th level spell.
Dex 11-09-07, 03:04 AM	Actually, I think you can only learn a special ability once, and if you "eat" some other wizard's spellcasting you only get the higher of the two. I might be wrong, though. Like how eating two "Evasion" skills doesn't give more saves or less damage or anything.