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Leress 12-13-06, 06:35 PM	Level BAB F R W Special 1st +0 +2 +2 +2 In Harm'sway,Discerning Insight +1, Observations 2 +1 +3 +3 +3 Combat sense +1,Combat Bearing +1 3 +2 +3 +3 +3 Skin as metal 1/day,Diehard, 4 +3 +4 +4 +4 Sudden action 1/day,Discerning Insight +2 5 +3 +4 +4 +4 Fearless, Combat Bearing +2 6 +4 +5 +5 +5 Skin as metal 2/day,Defensive strike 7 +5 +5 +5 +5 Sudden action 2/day, Discerning Insight +3 8 +6 +6 +6 +6 Combat sense +2,Combat Bearing +3 9 +6 +6 +6 +6 Skin as metal 3/day 10 +7 +7 +7 +7 Blanket protection, Sudden action 3/day,Discerning Insight +4 HD: d12 Requirements BAB: +3 Skills: Sense Motive 2 ranks, Profession(bodyguard) 1 ranks Feats: Loyal, Improved Intitiave Special: You must have protected a single ally from danger for one full combat encounter from start to finish. Allies being hit during the surprise round, being hit with area effect spells do not count against the requirement. Class Skills Balance, Diplomancy, Gather Information, Listen, Knowledge (local), Knowledge (nobilty), Sense motive(wis), Spot(wis) Tumble Skill points at each level 4+int Features Weapon and Armor Proficiency- no new In Harm's Way (ex) Once per round, if the guardian is adjacent to an ally who is targeted by a direct melee or ranged attack (but not an area effect), the guardian can subject him or herself to the attack in the ally's instead. If the attack hits the guardian, he or her takes damage normally. If it misses, it also misses the ally. The guardian must declare his or her intention to place him or herself in harm's way before the attack roll is made. The guardian selects his or her ally either prior to combat or immediately after the guardian makes his or her initiative check. The guardian can't change his or her ally for the duration of the combat. Combat senes (ex): This ability allows an guardian of 2nd level or higher to receive a +1 competence bonus on attacks. At 8th level, the competence bonus increases to +2. Skin as metal (su): A 3rd level guardian has the ability make his skin as hard as metal. This takes move action. The guardian gains DR 5/Adamantine for number of round equal to his Consitution modifer +1. He may use this ability 2/day. At, 6th level the DR changes to DR 10/Adamantine and can be used an additional time per day. At 9th level it changes to DR 15/Adamantine and can be used an additional time per day. Sudden Action (ex): Once per day, an guardian of 4th level or higher can focus his or her effort to burst into sudden action when the situation calls for it. The guardian change his or her place in the initiative order, moving higher in the count by a number less than or equal to his or her class level, as the guardian sees fit. The guardian can declare the use of this ability at the start of any round, before anyone else takes an action. This ability increase by an additional time of day at levels 7th and 10th Diehard (ex): At 3rd level, an guardian gains the Diehard feat, even if the guardian does not meet the prequries Defensive Strike (ex) at 6th level, if an opponent makes a melee attack against the guardian and misses while the guardian is using the total defense option, the guardian can make a single attack against that opponent with the guardian's highest attack bonus. The guardian gains no bonus against an opponent who makes a successful attack. Blanket Protection (ex): At 10th level, an guardian can use his or her expertise to provide protection for up to six allies (not including him/herself) within sight and voice range of his position. The guardian takes a full round action to issue orders and directions. Doing this provides the guardian's allies with a +4 insight bonus to Armor Class for 3 rounds. Discerning Insight (ex): At 1st level a guardian can recognize when a person is trustworthy or not, giving the character a +1 bonus on Sense Motive checks when trying to get a "hunch" about the subject's personality after at least 3 rounds of observation. This bonus increase to +2 at level 4 and only takes 2 rounds, +3 at level 7and it only takes a full-round, and +4 at level 10 and it only takes a free action. Combat Bearing (ex) At 2nd level a guardian can steady him/her self to fight in precarious situations, giving the character a +1 bonus to Dexterity checks to avoid falling when damaged while balancing or moving quickly across difficult surfaces. This bonus is also applied to resist trip attempts. This bonus increas to +2 at level 5, and +3 at level 8. Fearless (ex): At 5th level a guardian gains a +4 morale bonus on will saves to resist fear effect and on level checks to oppose Intimidate checks. At level 10 you gain immunity to fear and Intimidation checks. Observations (ex): The guardian at 1st level, after having traveled with the party for a while, picks up the habit of noticing things they overlook. The Guardian gains +4 compentence bonus to all Listen, Sense Motive and Spot checks only after the other party members have had a turn to do so. It increase to +8 at 3rd level, +12 at 6th level, and +16 at 9th level. This ability can be used as a free action. I am going for a bodyguard Npc to go with the Nobility in my campaign. New feat Loyal [General] The character is dependable and trustworthy, and may make a better follower than leader. Benefit: The Loyal character gains +2 bonus to all saving throws. Special: Loyal characters always attach themselves to another person or group, whom they feel is worthy of their devotion. To gain the benefit of this feat, the Loyal character must declare with whom their loyalty lies. If he or she fails to role-play this loyality, the GM is free to remove the benefit of this feat. The character may change their loyalties if the situations calls for it (like the death of his or her old boss, or falling in love). When attempting to use the Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, and Sense Motive on the target of his or her loyality, the Loyal character suffers a -2 penalty to his or her Skill checks. Thoughts?
MagocracyForAll 12-13-06, 11:20 PM	Sudden Action seems a littile too powerful, maybe half class level, or wait 3 rounds before using it again, or add improved intitiave to the reqs.
Leress 12-14-06, 01:53 AM	Sudden Action seems a littile too powerful, maybe half class level, or wait 3 rounds before using it again, or add improved intitiave to the reqs. It can only be used once per day period, but I do like the idea of adding improved intitiave to the prereqs.
claypigeons 12-14-06, 05:27 AM	First, I would like to point out that the title of this thread is literally "Please Please Examine And Critique Honestly". I'm not sure what the 'N' is before Prestige Class is though.... Combat senes (ex): This ability allows an guardian of 2nd level or higher to designate a single opponent during his or her action and receive a +1 competence bonus on attacks against that oppnent. The guardian can select a new oppnent on any action. At 8th level, the competence bonus increases to +2. My bolding. BROKEN. Any action... so you could get +1 on every attack of oppurtunity, as well as every attack you make on your turn? Change "action" to turn, which is what I think you mean. Aside from that... It doesnt really do anything. I suppose as an NPC class (which is what you designed it for) it's alright traveling with the party.
Leress 12-14-06, 12:09 PM	First, I would like to point out that the title of this thread is literally "Please Please Examine And Critique Honestly". I'm not sure what the 'N' is before Prestige Class is though.... Yeah that's what I meant. N is for Non-player. My bolding. BROKEN. Any action... so you could get +1 on every attack of oppurtunity, as well as every attack you make on your turn? Change "action" to turn, which is what I think you mean. I did mean every action. That's not really that broken a +1 to hit at ECL 5 and +2 at ECL 11 isn't really that much. Aside from that... It doesnt really do anything. I suppose as an NPC class (which is what you designed it for) it's alright traveling with the party. Thank you for your critque.
Oswald Krato 12-14-06, 12:28 PM	I think you're looking for the 3.0 Sword and Fist Devoted Defender. Same HD, but more of an emphasis on finding the dangers (sense skill requirements instead of knowledges).
claypigeons 12-14-06, 03:58 PM	I did mean every action. That's not really that broken a +1 to hit at ECL 5 and +2 at ECL 11 isn't really that much. If you open this class up to your players, you might think about changing it. A +1 (+2 later) bonus to hit is actually pretty effective. I'm not sure on the exact conversion rate, but +1 to hit is equal to a few damage. Just a thought.
Leress 12-14-06, 04:59 PM	If you open this class up to your players, you might think about changing it. A +1 (+2 later) bonus to hit is actually pretty effective. I'm not sure on the exact conversion rate, but +1 to hit is equal to a few damage. Just a thought. But I want it to be effective...that's good. A +1 can turn into 1-3 points of damage with proper feats.
SilentOne 12-14-06, 05:13 PM	Just wondering... if he can change it on ANY action, why make him select whatsoever? Any time he would make an attack he can change it to get the bonus, so just make it apply to all attack rolls. If you think about it this way... it's like Weapon Focus and Greater Weapon Focus, without prerequisites, and applying to all weapons. Just pointing that out. Other than that, I find it somehow much too funny that lawful strike adds a variable amount of damage. For flavor reasons alone I would probably change this to a flat bonus (which is also good for critical hits). Observations I think gives twice the bonus it should... maybe reduce it to just the Bodyguard's class level as a bonus? Remember when applying this that the character needs to take a move action to make a Spot check after the reflexive one granted by the provoking action. Defensive Strike... limit it to the number of attacks of opportunity the character can make each round? Iterive attacks might be better actually, if you're insistant on keeping this ability (I don't like it, especially in it's current form, which means that a) i get better AC and b) your lower bonus iterive attacks provoke full bonus attacks from me)
Leress 12-14-06, 07:11 PM	Just wondering... if he can change it on ANY action, why make him select whatsoever? Any time he would make an attack he can change it to get the bonus, so just make it apply to all attack rolls. If you think about it this way... it's like Weapon Focus and Greater Weapon Focus, without prerequisites, and applying to all weapons. Just pointing that out. Okay I see that Other than that, I find it somehow much too funny that lawful strike adds a variable amount of damage. For flavor reasons alone I would probably change this to a flat bonus (which is also good for critical hits). Okay it adds variable damage to chaotics ...I don't get the joke. EDIT: Removed Lawful strike, replace with Skin as metal. Observations I think gives twice the bonus it should... maybe reduce it to just the Bodyguard's class level as a bonus? Remember when applying this that the character needs to take a move action to make a Spot check after the reflexive one granted by the provoking action. Why reduce the guardian is suppose to be better at finding danger then the rest of the group. This ability comes in after all the other characters have had a chance to observe that wouldn't take a move action. Defensive Strike... limit it to the number of attacks of opportunity the character can make each round? Iterive attacks might be better actually, if you're insistant on keeping this ability (I don't like it, especially in it's current form, which means that a) i get better AC and b) your lower bonus iterive attacks provoke full bonus attacks from me) Changed.
Leress 12-20-06, 05:55 PM	Upated the class.
SilentOne 12-20-06, 06:03 PM	Why reduce the guardian is suppose to be better at finding danger then the rest of the group. This ability comes in after all the other characters have had a chance to observe that wouldn't take a move action.Changed. However, the check is instantaneous and simultaneous only as a reflexive action, such as when the DM calls for a Spot check to notice a rogue sneaking up on the party. However, if the player wants to try to actively look for the rogue, it takes a move action to peer about, not another free action. Action Varies. Every time you have a chance to spot something in a reactive manner you can make a Spot check without using an action. Trying to spot something you failed to see previously is a move action. To read lips, you must concentrate for a full minute before making a Spot check, and you can’t perform any other action (other than moving at up to half speed) during this minute. See? So it's not just that the bodyguard rolls last and thus is looking around after everyone else has, but he needs to conciously take the time to look once the initial reaction is over. --------- Is there any reason why Skin as Armor changes the piercing metal type? It could just go DR 5/adamantine, to 10, to 15, and still be good. By the way, you didn't change Defensive Strike.
Leress 12-20-06, 07:49 PM	However, the check is instantaneous and simultaneous only as a reflexive action, such as when the DM calls for a Spot check to notice a rogue sneaking up on the party. However, if the player wants to try to actively look for the rogue, it takes a move action to peer about, not another free action. See? So it's not just that the bodyguard rolls last and thus is looking around after everyone else has, but he needs to conciously take the time to look once the initial reaction is over. changed. --------- Is there any reason why Skin as Armor changes the piercing metal type? It could just go DR 5/adamantine, to 10, to 15, and still be good. changed By the way, you didn't change Defensive Strike. It was changed now it only allows for a single attack.
Leress 03-04-07, 01:01 AM	Cleaned up the class, and removed some requirements.