Question about PrC cap ability. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Question about PrC cap ability. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DonThelonious
10-02-07, 11:33 PM Would using an epic feat make a good capstone ability for a PrC?
I have been mulling over the idea, but wasn't sure. It would be like getting the epic feat earlier than 21st level, but it makes sense to me for a PrC.
dman11235
10-02-07, 11:57 PM That depends on a lot of things. Like, the rest of the PrC, the feat in question, the requirements for the PrC. Order of the Bow Initiate gets an epic feat at level 2. But it's not a very powerful one (close combat shot) compared to others (epic spell casting).
DonThelonious
10-03-07, 12:58 AM Oh no, nothing like epic spellcasting, I was thinking things like the 2weapon fighting tree, and perhaps devastating critical. Things of that nature. Epic spellcasting is STRICTLY epic.
InkBlot
10-03-07, 01:21 AM If it's a 10 level prestige class, then generally it's alright. But it really depends on what the ability is, and what the rest of the class gives you.

Capstone abilities are a lot like graduation presents. They don't help you much while your studying 8 hours a day and working a part time job to pay for all your books/+5 slaying arrows.
DonThelonious
10-03-07, 01:33 AM Capstone abilities are a lot like graduation presents. They don't help you much while your studying 8 hours a day and working a part time job to pay for all your books/+5 slaying arrows.
I have seen as much. But capstone abilities should be more like a diploma though. Since you have slogged through all the crap, the endless hours of pain and suffering, then at long last you got something that really makes you better than the :censored: hole who doesn't have it and is whining because you do have it, and you use it.
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dman11235
10-03-07, 03:32 PM No, well designed PrCs and classes (spellcasting base classes are usually an exception thanks to spells) have a cap that doesn't change the way you play. Something that's nice, but not too powerful. A good example I gave at an earlier time was the monk's perfect self. You're now an outsider, and have DR 10/magic. That's not that great an ability, but it's nice to have, and it finishes the class (not saying the rest of the monk was well made). Another example (again a bad class, but good capstone example) is the Order of the Bow Initiate. Also the scout's blind sight. Barbarian's mighty rage. Ninja's Ghost Walk. You get the idea.

PrCs may be an exception, as you may be able to use the capstone for more than just that last level.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DonThelonious 10-02-07, 11:33 PM	Would using an epic feat make a good capstone ability for a PrC? I have been mulling over the idea, but wasn't sure. It would be like getting the epic feat earlier than 21st level, but it makes sense to me for a PrC.
dman11235 10-02-07, 11:57 PM	That depends on a lot of things. Like, the rest of the PrC, the feat in question, the requirements for the PrC. Order of the Bow Initiate gets an epic feat at level 2. But it's not a very powerful one (close combat shot) compared to others (epic spell casting).
DonThelonious 10-03-07, 12:58 AM	Oh no, nothing like epic spellcasting, I was thinking things like the 2weapon fighting tree, and perhaps devastating critical. Things of that nature. Epic spellcasting is STRICTLY epic.
InkBlot 10-03-07, 01:21 AM	If it's a 10 level prestige class, then generally it's alright. But it really depends on what the ability is, and what the rest of the class gives you. Capstone abilities are a lot like graduation presents. They don't help you much while your studying 8 hours a day and working a part time job to pay for all your books/+5 slaying arrows.
DonThelonious 10-03-07, 01:33 AM	Capstone abilities are a lot like graduation presents. They don't help you much while your studying 8 hours a day and working a part time job to pay for all your books/+5 slaying arrows. I have seen as much. But capstone abilities should be more like a diploma though. Since you have slogged through all the crap, the endless hours of pain and suffering, then at long last you got something that really makes you better than the :censored: hole who doesn't have it and is whining because you do have it, and you use it. --------- :lightbulb This is getting sigged.
dman11235 10-03-07, 03:32 PM	No, well designed PrCs and classes (spellcasting base classes are usually an exception thanks to spells) have a cap that doesn't change the way you play. Something that's nice, but not too powerful. A good example I gave at an earlier time was the monk's perfect self. You're now an outsider, and have DR 10/magic. That's not that great an ability, but it's nice to have, and it finishes the class (not saying the rest of the monk was well made). Another example (again a bad class, but good capstone example) is the Order of the Bow Initiate. Also the scout's blind sight. Barbarian's mighty rage. Ninja's Ghost Walk. You get the idea. PrCs may be an exception, as you may be able to use the capstone for more than just that last level.