Quick Question on Sacred Fist [Archive] - Wizards Community

Quick Question on Sacred Fist [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Artector
10-03-07, 04:45 PM How does the Speed bonus and the AC bonus interact with previous gained monk levels?

(Hope this doesn't sound like too much, but this is the simplest way I could think of to phrase it)
imakuni67
10-04-07, 06:57 PM You effectively add sacred fist levels and monk levels to determine your monk abilities (speed, AC, and unarmed damage not class features like slow fall). For example, a level 5 cleric, level 5 monk, level 5 sacred fist would have the speed, AC, and unarmed damage of a 10th level monk.
Artector
10-04-07, 07:37 PM Since it didn't outright say that I wasn't sure. And the fact that the AC bonus and speed bonus are usuable in light armor made me wonder if they overrode the regular monk abilities, as those don't work in armor.
LefferDP
10-04-07, 09:14 PM I believe they do override the monk abilities if you are in light armor, as it doesn't say they stack. There's been two printings of this class, you wouuld think any ambiguous wording would have been fixed.
Geektanic
10-04-07, 10:47 PM You effectively add sacred fist levels and monk levels to determine your monk abilities (speed, AC, and unarmed damage not class features like slow fall). For example, a level 5 cleric, level 5 monk, level 5 sacred fist would have the speed, AC, and unarmed damage of a 10th level monk.

Where does it say this for EVERYTHING? I'm looking at the Sacred Fist in Complete Divine right now, and the only ability it says to add to Monk levels is on it's unarmed damage.

If there's another printing of Sacred Fist that says to add to Monk levels for all the Monk-esque abilities, and takes precedence, I'd love to know. As right now I plan on using Sacred Fist, and am kind of bummed out that the speed bonus doesnt stack, and I'm not super sure on the AC bonus.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Artector 10-03-07, 04:45 PM	How does the Speed bonus and the AC bonus interact with previous gained monk levels? (Hope this doesn't sound like too much, but this is the simplest way I could think of to phrase it)
imakuni67 10-04-07, 06:57 PM	You effectively add sacred fist levels and monk levels to determine your monk abilities (speed, AC, and unarmed damage not class features like slow fall). For example, a level 5 cleric, level 5 monk, level 5 sacred fist would have the speed, AC, and unarmed damage of a 10th level monk.
Artector 10-04-07, 07:37 PM	Since it didn't outright say that I wasn't sure. And the fact that the AC bonus and speed bonus are usuable in light armor made me wonder if they overrode the regular monk abilities, as those don't work in armor.
LefferDP 10-04-07, 09:14 PM	I believe they do override the monk abilities if you are in light armor, as it doesn't say they stack. There's been two printings of this class, you wouuld think any ambiguous wording would have been fixed.
Geektanic 10-04-07, 10:47 PM	You effectively add sacred fist levels and monk levels to determine your monk abilities (speed, AC, and unarmed damage not class features like slow fall). For example, a level 5 cleric, level 5 monk, level 5 sacred fist would have the speed, AC, and unarmed damage of a 10th level monk. Where does it say this for EVERYTHING? I'm looking at the Sacred Fist in Complete Divine right now, and the only ability it says to add to Monk levels is on it's unarmed damage. If there's another printing of Sacred Fist that says to add to Monk levels for all the Monk-esque abilities, and takes precedence, I'd love to know. As right now I plan on using Sacred Fist, and am kind of bummed out that the speed bonus doesnt stack, and I'm not super sure on the AC bonus.