Ranged Precision and other abilities [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ranged Precision and other abilities [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Master_Verhoffin
12-17-07, 01:06 AM I was looking at the Order of the Bow Initiate (Complete Warrior) for an archer build and stumbled across 2 questions about their Ranged Precision ability:

1. Could you use Manyshot with Ranged Precision? I'm inclined to say yes, considering they both require a standard action to use and the class requires Rapid Shot (which is otherwise useless to an OoBI).

2. Would the extra damage from Ranged Precision stack with the extra damage from a scout's Skirmish ability? I don't see any reason why they wouldn't stack and, given that both classes require you to not take full attacks to gain the extra damage, it seems natural they would.

I'm asking because the OoBI seems completely inferior to an archery ranger or scout with Greater Manyshot otherwise. Thanks in advance.
Tedronai
12-17-07, 01:18 AM Technically Manyshot and Ranged Precision are each their own, seperate, action, and as such, cannot be combined. If you decide, for whatever reason, that they SHOULD be able to, and decide to house-rule that they in fact do, then the precision damage would apply only to one of the arrows (the 'first', though that has little meaning for an attack that fires simultaneous arrows).

A Scout's Skirmish damage applies whenever the situation allows for it, and Ranged Precision damage applies whenever the appropriate action is taken. In more clear language, they work perfectly fine together.
Bopple
12-17-07, 01:30 AM Well, Greater Manyshot renders the only one precision damage per volley issue moot.
The only reasonable way is to let it work on the first hit only or as a swift action to boost the next successful hit.
goawayugh
12-17-07, 09:20 AM Can you cast two spells at the same time, if they both require just a standard action? Manyshot and Ranged Precision are two completely separate things that have nothing to do with one another, you cannot combine them.

Yes, skirmish will work with Ranged Precision. Skirmish is similar to sneak attack in that it will apply to ANY attack that meets the prerequisites for it. In this case, moving 10'.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Master_Verhoffin 12-17-07, 01:06 AM	I was looking at the Order of the Bow Initiate (Complete Warrior) for an archer build and stumbled across 2 questions about their Ranged Precision ability: 1. Could you use Manyshot with Ranged Precision? I'm inclined to say yes, considering they both require a standard action to use and the class requires Rapid Shot (which is otherwise useless to an OoBI). 2. Would the extra damage from Ranged Precision stack with the extra damage from a scout's Skirmish ability? I don't see any reason why they wouldn't stack and, given that both classes require you to not take full attacks to gain the extra damage, it seems natural they would. I'm asking because the OoBI seems completely inferior to an archery ranger or scout with Greater Manyshot otherwise. Thanks in advance.
Tedronai 12-17-07, 01:18 AM	Technically Manyshot and Ranged Precision are each their own, seperate, action, and as such, cannot be combined. If you decide, for whatever reason, that they SHOULD be able to, and decide to house-rule that they in fact do, then the precision damage would apply only to one of the arrows (the 'first', though that has little meaning for an attack that fires simultaneous arrows). A Scout's Skirmish damage applies whenever the situation allows for it, and Ranged Precision damage applies whenever the appropriate action is taken. In more clear language, they work perfectly fine together.
Bopple 12-17-07, 01:30 AM	Well, Greater Manyshot renders the only one precision damage per volley issue moot. The only reasonable way is to let it work on the first hit only or as a swift action to boost the next successful hit.
goawayugh 12-17-07, 09:20 AM	Can you cast two spells at the same time, if they both require just a standard action? Manyshot and Ranged Precision are two completely separate things that have nothing to do with one another, you cannot combine them. Yes, skirmish will work with Ranged Precision. Skirmish is similar to sneak attack in that it will apply to ANY attack that meets the prerequisites for it. In this case, moving 10'.