Ranger/Hexblade PrC PEACH [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ranger/Hexblade PrC PEACH [Archive] - Wizards Community

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starfire311
03-15-07, 07:02 PM I was thinking about creating a loose organization that combines arcane and divine magic along with martial prowess to defend nature. I looked at arcane hierophant as a possible PrC for this organization, but I just didn't fit very well, the group was much more militant. Then it hit me a ranger/hexblade PrC is exactly what I need.

So here is what I have come up with, please if anyone has any critques or suggestions for arcane/nature abilities please let me know.

Mystic HunterPrC

Hit Die: d8
Requirements
Alignment: Non-good and non-lawful.
Base Attack Bonus: +6
Skills: Knowledge (Arcana) 8 Ranks, Knowledge (Nature) 8 Ranks
Special: Favored Enemy Class ability and Hexblade Curse Class ability.
Spells: Ability to cast 1st level arcane and divine spells

Class Skills
The Mystic Hunter's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Intimidate (Wis), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Arcana) (Int), Knowledge (religion), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Ride (Dex), Search (Int), Spellcraft (Int), Spot (Wis), Survival (Wis), Swim (Str)
Skill Points at Each Level: 4 + Int modifier.

Table: Mystic Hunter PrC

Level BAB Fort Ref Will Special
1st +1 +2 +2 +2 Hexblades Curse, Favored Enemy, Companion Familiar, Wild Empathy
2nd +2 +3 +3 +3
3rd +3 +3 +3 +3
4th +4 +4 +4 +4 Favored Curse
5th +5 +4 +4 +4
6th +6 +5 +5 +5
7th +7 +5 +5 +5 Improved Favored Curse
8th +8 +6 +6 +6
9th +9 +6 +6 +6
10th +10 +7 +7 +7 Greater Favored Curse
Class Features
All of the following are class features of the Mystic Hunter.
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Mystic Hunter gains no proficiency with any weapon or armor.

Spellcasting: Choose 1 previous arcane spellcasting classs and 1 previous divine spellcasting class. Each level of Mystic Hunter you gain spells per day and spells known as if you gained a level in both of those classes.

Companion Familiar: As per the same abilty of the arcane hierophant on page 108 of Races of Wild

Favored Enemy: Levels in Mystic Hunter stack with levels in ranger for determining your favored enemy ability and the number of favored enemies.

Hexblades Curse: Levels in Mystic Hunter stack with hexblade levels for determining the number of times per day you can use hexblade’s curse, and determinng if you get greater hexblade’s curse, and dire hexblade’s curse and determining the DC of your hexblade’s curse.

Wild Empathy: Levels in Mystic Hunter stack with ranger levels for use of wild empathy.

Favored Curse: At 4th level, if you use hexblade’s curse on a target that is your favored enemy the penalties are increased by 1, and the DC to resist is increased by 1, and all your favored enemy bonuses are increased by 2 if they fail their save vs the hexblade's curse.

Improved Favored Curse: At level 7, if you use hexblade’s curse on a target that is your favored enemy the penalties are increased by 2, and the DC to resist is increased by 2, and all your favored enemy bonuses are increased by 4 if they fail their save vs the hexblade's curse.

Greater Favored Curse: At level 10, if you use hexblade’s curse on a target that is your favored enemy the penalties are increased by 3, and the DC to resist is increased by 3, and all your favored enemy bonuses are increased by 6 if they fail their save vs the hexblade's curse.
Bhaal006
03-15-07, 09:12 PM The name is kind of uninspiring.
jaelis
03-15-07, 10:02 PM I like the idea though, and it seems pretty balanced.

Some name suggestions:
Hex Warden
Nature's Avenger
Dark Ranger
Mystic Hunter
starfire311
03-15-07, 10:47 PM The name is kind of uninspiring.

Agreed, very much so, up I was calling it Ranger/Hexblade PrC, while I was typing it up, then thought of the wilderness arcanist.

I like the idea though, and it seems pretty balanced.

Some name suggestions:
Hex Warden
Nature's Avenger
Dark Ranger
Mystic Hunter

Nice names.

Mystic Hunter and Nature's Avenger are my 2 favorites out of that list, Dark Ranger makes me think power rangers for some unknown reason, especially since my generation is much older.
Bhaal006
03-16-07, 11:47 AM How about Gray Stalker, or a variation on the above, Curse Warden.
starfire311
03-16-07, 12:04 PM How about Gray Stalker, or a variation on the above, Curse Warden.

Gray stalker is a nice name.

I must a say I am a bit surprised that no one has claimed that it is utterly broken, since it grants, Good BAB, all good saves, and 2 caster progressions, plus some other nice abilities
jaelis
03-16-07, 12:20 PM Actually, though it seems reasonable for a hexblade/ranger based on the nature of those classes, I think it might break pretty badly for, say, a druid/sorc. Maybe if you added favored enemy and hex ability prereqs?
starfire311
03-16-07, 12:31 PM Actually, though it seems reasonable for a hexblade/ranger based on the nature of those classes, I think it might break pretty badly for, say, a druid/sorc. Maybe if you added favored enemy and hex ability prereqs?

I did not want to prohibit a druid/sorc from taking it, but I did want to make it difficult for one, how about upping the BAB req to +8 and adding Track as a Prereq. Since you basically need to be hexblade 4/Ranger 4 to meet the current prereqs, it wuldn't change anything for a hexblade/ranger, but make it much mroe difficult for a druid/sorc
jaelis
03-16-07, 12:43 PM Hm, even so, it would be pretty good for, say a druid 12/sorc 1. At the cost of 1 level of druid spells and his better wildshape, he would pick up 8 levels of sorc spells, better saves, and an extra three points of BAB. (I'm sure you could get your fourth attack with just a little work.)

But more, the flavor doesn't make sense. You get the hex and favored enemy progressions that wouldn't work, the full BAB and good saves don't make sense... you have a really nice ranger/hexblade combo, why try to shoehorn a druid/sorc into it? You could just make a more suitable casting PrC for that, I think there actually is one already in RotW maybe? (In addition to mystic theurge, of course.)
starfire311
03-16-07, 05:55 PM Hm, even so, it would be pretty good for, say a druid 12/sorc 1. At the cost of 1 level of druid spells and his better wildshape, he would pick up 8 levels of sorc spells, better saves, and an extra three points of BAB. (I'm sure you could get your fourth attack with just a little work.)

But more, the flavor doesn't make sense. You get the hex and favored enemy progressions that wouldn't work, the full BAB and good saves don't make sense... you have a really nice ranger/hexblade combo, why try to shoehorn a druid/sorc into it? You could just make a more suitable casting PrC for that, I think there actually is one already in RotW maybe? (In addition to mystic theurge, of course.)

good points all around, and the druid/wiz PrC you are thinking of is Arcane Hierophant

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starfire311 03-15-07, 07:02 PM	I was thinking about creating a loose organization that combines arcane and divine magic along with martial prowess to defend nature. I looked at arcane hierophant as a possible PrC for this organization, but I just didn't fit very well, the group was much more militant. Then it hit me a ranger/hexblade PrC is exactly what I need. So here is what I have come up with, please if anyone has any critques or suggestions for arcane/nature abilities please let me know. Mystic HunterPrC Hit Die: d8 Requirements Alignment: Non-good and non-lawful. Base Attack Bonus: +6 Skills: Knowledge (Arcana) 8 Ranks, Knowledge (Nature) 8 Ranks Special: Favored Enemy Class ability and Hexblade Curse Class ability. Spells: Ability to cast 1st level arcane and divine spells Class Skills The Mystic Hunter's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Intimidate (Wis), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Arcana) (Int), Knowledge (religion), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Ride (Dex), Search (Int), Spellcraft (Int), Spot (Wis), Survival (Wis), Swim (Str) Skill Points at Each Level: 4 + Int modifier. Table: Mystic Hunter PrC Level BAB Fort Ref Will Special 1st +1 +2 +2 +2 Hexblades Curse, Favored Enemy, Companion Familiar, Wild Empathy 2nd +2 +3 +3 +3 3rd +3 +3 +3 +3 4th +4 +4 +4 +4 Favored Curse 5th +5 +4 +4 +4 6th +6 +5 +5 +5 7th +7 +5 +5 +5 Improved Favored Curse 8th +8 +6 +6 +6 9th +9 +6 +6 +6 10th +10 +7 +7 +7 Greater Favored Curse Class Features All of the following are class features of the Mystic Hunter. Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Mystic Hunter gains no proficiency with any weapon or armor. Spellcasting: Choose 1 previous arcane spellcasting classs and 1 previous divine spellcasting class. Each level of Mystic Hunter you gain spells per day and spells known as if you gained a level in both of those classes. Companion Familiar: As per the same abilty of the arcane hierophant on page 108 of Races of Wild Favored Enemy: Levels in Mystic Hunter stack with levels in ranger for determining your favored enemy ability and the number of favored enemies. Hexblades Curse: Levels in Mystic Hunter stack with hexblade levels for determining the number of times per day you can use hexblade’s curse, and determinng if you get greater hexblade’s curse, and dire hexblade’s curse and determining the DC of your hexblade’s curse. Wild Empathy: Levels in Mystic Hunter stack with ranger levels for use of wild empathy. Favored Curse: At 4th level, if you use hexblade’s curse on a target that is your favored enemy the penalties are increased by 1, and the DC to resist is increased by 1, and all your favored enemy bonuses are increased by 2 if they fail their save vs the hexblade's curse. Improved Favored Curse: At level 7, if you use hexblade’s curse on a target that is your favored enemy the penalties are increased by 2, and the DC to resist is increased by 2, and all your favored enemy bonuses are increased by 4 if they fail their save vs the hexblade's curse. Greater Favored Curse: At level 10, if you use hexblade’s curse on a target that is your favored enemy the penalties are increased by 3, and the DC to resist is increased by 3, and all your favored enemy bonuses are increased by 6 if they fail their save vs the hexblade's curse.
Bhaal006 03-15-07, 09:12 PM	The name is kind of uninspiring.
jaelis 03-15-07, 10:02 PM	I like the idea though, and it seems pretty balanced. Some name suggestions: Hex Warden Nature's Avenger Dark Ranger Mystic Hunter
starfire311 03-15-07, 10:47 PM	The name is kind of uninspiring. Agreed, very much so, up I was calling it Ranger/Hexblade PrC, while I was typing it up, then thought of the wilderness arcanist. I like the idea though, and it seems pretty balanced. Some name suggestions: Hex Warden Nature's Avenger Dark Ranger Mystic Hunter Nice names. Mystic Hunter and Nature's Avenger are my 2 favorites out of that list, Dark Ranger makes me think power rangers for some unknown reason, especially since my generation is much older.
Bhaal006 03-16-07, 11:47 AM	How about Gray Stalker, or a variation on the above, Curse Warden.
starfire311 03-16-07, 12:04 PM	How about Gray Stalker, or a variation on the above, Curse Warden. Gray stalker is a nice name. I must a say I am a bit surprised that no one has claimed that it is utterly broken, since it grants, Good BAB, all good saves, and 2 caster progressions, plus some other nice abilities
jaelis 03-16-07, 12:20 PM	Actually, though it seems reasonable for a hexblade/ranger based on the nature of those classes, I think it might break pretty badly for, say, a druid/sorc. Maybe if you added favored enemy and hex ability prereqs?
starfire311 03-16-07, 12:31 PM	Actually, though it seems reasonable for a hexblade/ranger based on the nature of those classes, I think it might break pretty badly for, say, a druid/sorc. Maybe if you added favored enemy and hex ability prereqs? I did not want to prohibit a druid/sorc from taking it, but I did want to make it difficult for one, how about upping the BAB req to +8 and adding Track as a Prereq. Since you basically need to be hexblade 4/Ranger 4 to meet the current prereqs, it wuldn't change anything for a hexblade/ranger, but make it much mroe difficult for a druid/sorc
jaelis 03-16-07, 12:43 PM	Hm, even so, it would be pretty good for, say a druid 12/sorc 1. At the cost of 1 level of druid spells and his better wildshape, he would pick up 8 levels of sorc spells, better saves, and an extra three points of BAB. (I'm sure you could get your fourth attack with just a little work.) But more, the flavor doesn't make sense. You get the hex and favored enemy progressions that wouldn't work, the full BAB and good saves don't make sense... you have a really nice ranger/hexblade combo, why try to shoehorn a druid/sorc into it? You could just make a more suitable casting PrC for that, I think there actually is one already in RotW maybe? (In addition to mystic theurge, of course.)
starfire311 03-16-07, 05:55 PM	Hm, even so, it would be pretty good for, say a druid 12/sorc 1. At the cost of 1 level of druid spells and his better wildshape, he would pick up 8 levels of sorc spells, better saves, and an extra three points of BAB. (I'm sure you could get your fourth attack with just a little work.) But more, the flavor doesn't make sense. You get the hex and favored enemy progressions that wouldn't work, the full BAB and good saves don't make sense... you have a really nice ranger/hexblade combo, why try to shoehorn a druid/sorc into it? You could just make a more suitable casting PrC for that, I think there actually is one already in RotW maybe? (In addition to mystic theurge, of course.) good points all around, and the druid/wiz PrC you are thinking of is Arcane Hierophant