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Post/Author/DateTime Post
crimsonwolf
02-24-07, 06:55 PM is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage?
enygmatic_me
02-24-07, 07:01 PM is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage?

Oh, the deadly typo. Be prepared for the potential of make-up jokes at your expense.

As to good stealth skill oriented rogues. Nightsong Infiltrator might be a good choice. I think the Spymaster is pretty decent as well, though not sure.

Honestly though, if lock picking and traps are the most important thing in your character build, you might just want to stay straight rogue.
KurenaiYami
02-24-07, 07:02 PM is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage?

Trapsmith from Dungeonscape and Combat Trapsmith from Complete Scoundrel jump to mind when I think about traps. Though I've never found cosmetics very good with traps, so the question is slightly misleading.

Edit:

Oh, the deadly typo. Be prepared for the potential of make-up jokes at your expense.
Whoever would do such a thing?
SephDragoon
02-24-07, 07:10 PM Nope, no color PrC's here... If you find one, let me know, since I didn't even know rouge was a class.

Whoever would do such a thing?
I would.
enygmatic_me
02-24-07, 07:11 PM Whoever would do such a thing?

I have seen it happen in almost every thread I have read that the Rogue/Rouge mistake has been. For all the intelligent people on these boards there are several that seem to take pleasure in making someone look stupid over the littlest things, as has been illustrated by the post above.
The_Shaman
02-24-07, 07:21 PM Dungeon delver would be okay, if you're perfectly fine with not getting any sneak attack. Divine Seeker could also help you when it comes to magical traps.

Of course, shadowdancers have a very peculiar, but often working approach to traps and locks :)
SephDragoon
02-24-07, 07:26 PM I have seen it happen in almost every thread I have read that the Rogue/Rouge mistake has been. For all the intelligent people on these boards there are several that seem to take pleasure in making someone look stupid over the littlest things, as has been illustrated by the post above.

I probably would have left it alone, but it was too tempting when people started talking about it :P. It's like when someone says, "Don't look down!"
crimsonwolf
02-24-07, 07:56 PM k ty for those that have helped and :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: to the rest of you lazy bums :cool:
The_Shaman
02-24-07, 08:00 PM Hey, afaik writing "rouge" in a thread title here is a bit like using a certain 6-letter word in the Harlem. It, er, provokes reaction ;)
enygmatic_me
02-24-07, 09:21 PM I probably would have left it alone, but it was too tempting when people started talking about it :P. It's like when someone says, "Don't look down!"

I can understand that. Besides, what you wrote was extremely mild to some of the things I have seen on this, and other, boards
Jaxgaret
02-25-07, 01:31 AM is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage?

The best PrC I've seen for skillful rouging and goo application is the Acolyte of the Skin.

:rimshot:
Krusk
02-25-07, 01:59 AM Trapsmith from dungeonscape is pretty much exactly what your looking for, unless you actually ment rouge. I assumed you had a type-o.

i love how a thread about color pops up once a month on here... Is it really that common a mistake?
The_Shaman
02-25-07, 07:35 AM I think it's partly a common typo, and partly because the transcription of the word is a bit uncommon. But still, I'd have thought at least the X-men character taught people how to spell it :P .
TB
02-25-07, 07:45 AM it is a common typo. Many people don't even know the correct spelling....

back to the real question...
Why not just start out with something like a Scout or a Ninja. They are both very good with skill points... If your looking for something of a more --- fighter oriented... Try a basic ranger. they get a good ammount of skill points, and a wide variety of in-class skills.. just max out ranks in those places...

But in reality, a rogue is likely the best option. they get the trapfinding and trap sense abilities early on. and they have lots of skill points - even at low levels to pump up the needed skills, but still have a rounded character.
spncrbrrtt
02-25-07, 08:23 AM is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage?

Definitely Slime Lord from PGF. it's the only goo PRC I know of. you could always go into cleric of jubilex though.
crimsonwolf
02-25-07, 12:59 PM ty someoen finially answers the question.
spncrbrrtt
02-25-07, 01:39 PM oh, so you really meant goo? lol.
crimsonwolf
02-25-07, 04:37 PM no but it saves face
The_Shaman
02-25-07, 06:01 PM Hardly, I'd say it loses it.

BTW, the arcane trickster offers some nice options when dealing with locks and especially traps. Reflex save is nice, but not being near the trap while it goes off is nicer :D
crimsonwolf
02-25-07, 06:28 PM well lets just take a small detour and ask this.. is there any prc's that allow posion
use and are non evil?
StevenO
02-25-07, 07:05 PM If you want the trapfinding/lockpicking side of the Rogue instead of Stealth and Sneak Attack I'd definitely go for the Beguiler base class in the PHB2 instead of Rogue. You get most of the same skills but trade your combat abilities for spells.
The_Shaman
02-25-07, 09:12 PM well lets just take a small detour and ask this.. is there any prc's that allow posion
use and are non evil?

Er, a few afaik. I presume you're talking about safe poison use, not just that they don't mind using poison, right? Anyway, off the top of my head - The Deepwood sniper (Masters of the Wild, 3e), Justice of Weald and Woe (CoR), Monk of the Long Death (PGTF), Imaskari Vengeance Taker (Underdark), and Black Flame Zealot (CDivine / Unapproachable East) - oh, and the ninja spy (and maybe Bayushi deceiver) from OA. In addition to that, the higher-level druids and monks that are immune to (some) poisons are likewise able to safely use such poisons.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
crimsonwolf 02-24-07, 06:55 PM	is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage?
enygmatic_me 02-24-07, 07:01 PM	is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage? Oh, the deadly typo. Be prepared for the potential of make-up jokes at your expense. As to good stealth skill oriented rogues. Nightsong Infiltrator might be a good choice. I think the Spymaster is pretty decent as well, though not sure. Honestly though, if lock picking and traps are the most important thing in your character build, you might just want to stay straight rogue.
KurenaiYami 02-24-07, 07:02 PM	is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage? Trapsmith from Dungeonscape and Combat Trapsmith from Complete Scoundrel jump to mind when I think about traps. Though I've never found cosmetics very good with traps, so the question is slightly misleading. Edit: Oh, the deadly typo. Be prepared for the potential of make-up jokes at your expense. Whoever would do such a thing?
SephDragoon 02-24-07, 07:10 PM	Nope, no color PrC's here... If you find one, let me know, since I didn't even know rouge was a class. Whoever would do such a thing? I would.
enygmatic_me 02-24-07, 07:11 PM	Whoever would do such a thing? I have seen it happen in almost every thread I have read that the Rogue/Rouge mistake has been. For all the intelligent people on these boards there are several that seem to take pleasure in making someone look stupid over the littlest things, as has been illustrated by the post above.
The_Shaman 02-24-07, 07:21 PM	Dungeon delver would be okay, if you're perfectly fine with not getting any sneak attack. Divine Seeker could also help you when it comes to magical traps. Of course, shadowdancers have a very peculiar, but often working approach to traps and locks :)
SephDragoon 02-24-07, 07:26 PM	I have seen it happen in almost every thread I have read that the Rogue/Rouge mistake has been. For all the intelligent people on these boards there are several that seem to take pleasure in making someone look stupid over the littlest things, as has been illustrated by the post above. I probably would have left it alone, but it was too tempting when people started talking about it :P. It's like when someone says, "Don't look down!"
crimsonwolf 02-24-07, 07:56 PM	k ty for those that have helped and :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: to the rest of you lazy bums :cool:
The_Shaman 02-24-07, 08:00 PM	Hey, afaik writing "rouge" in a thread title here is a bit like using a certain 6-letter word in the Harlem. It, er, provokes reaction ;)
enygmatic_me 02-24-07, 09:21 PM	I probably would have left it alone, but it was too tempting when people started talking about it :P. It's like when someone says, "Don't look down!" I can understand that. Besides, what you wrote was extremely mild to some of the things I have seen on this, and other, boards
Jaxgaret 02-25-07, 01:31 AM	is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage? The best PrC I've seen for skillful rouging and goo application is the Acolyte of the Skin. :rimshot:
Krusk 02-25-07, 01:59 AM	Trapsmith from dungeonscape is pretty much exactly what your looking for, unless you actually ment rouge. I assumed you had a type-o. i love how a thread about color pops up once a month on here... Is it really that common a mistake?
The_Shaman 02-25-07, 07:35 AM	I think it's partly a common typo, and partly because the transcription of the word is a bit uncommon. But still, I'd have thought at least the X-men character taught people how to spell it :P .
TB 02-25-07, 07:45 AM	it is a common typo. Many people don't even know the correct spelling.... back to the real question... Why not just start out with something like a Scout or a Ninja. They are both very good with skill points... If your looking for something of a more --- fighter oriented... Try a basic ranger. they get a good ammount of skill points, and a wide variety of in-class skills.. just max out ranks in those places... But in reality, a rogue is likely the best option. they get the trapfinding and trap sense abilities early on. and they have lots of skill points - even at low levels to pump up the needed skills, but still have a rounded character.
spncrbrrtt 02-25-07, 08:23 AM	is there any goo PRC dealing with trap and lockpicking side of rouge instead of stealth damage? Definitely Slime Lord from PGF. it's the only goo PRC I know of. you could always go into cleric of jubilex though.
crimsonwolf 02-25-07, 12:59 PM	ty someoen finially answers the question.
spncrbrrtt 02-25-07, 01:39 PM	oh, so you really meant goo? lol.
crimsonwolf 02-25-07, 04:37 PM	no but it saves face
The_Shaman 02-25-07, 06:01 PM	Hardly, I'd say it loses it. BTW, the arcane trickster offers some nice options when dealing with locks and especially traps. Reflex save is nice, but not being near the trap while it goes off is nicer :D
crimsonwolf 02-25-07, 06:28 PM	well lets just take a small detour and ask this.. is there any prc's that allow posion use and are non evil?
StevenO 02-25-07, 07:05 PM	If you want the trapfinding/lockpicking side of the Rogue instead of Stealth and Sneak Attack I'd definitely go for the Beguiler base class in the PHB2 instead of Rogue. You get most of the same skills but trade your combat abilities for spells.
The_Shaman 02-25-07, 09:12 PM	well lets just take a small detour and ask this.. is there any prc's that allow posion use and are non evil? Er, a few afaik. I presume you're talking about safe poison use, not just that they don't mind using poison, right? Anyway, off the top of my head - The Deepwood sniper (Masters of the Wild, 3e), Justice of Weald and Woe (CoR), Monk of the Long Death (PGTF), Imaskari Vengeance Taker (Underdark), and Black Flame Zealot (CDivine / Unapproachable East) - oh, and the ninja spy (and maybe Bayushi deceiver) from OA. In addition to that, the higher-level druids and monks that are immune to (some) poisons are likewise able to safely use such poisons.