sneak attack undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

sneak attack undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Apocolypse_77
07-23-07, 08:44 PM am i crazy, i know i remeber a prestige class that allowed you to sneak attack undead. Is there actually one that does this? and what book is it in?
Apocolypse_77
07-23-07, 09:21 PM nevermind i found it, its in miniatures handbook, skullclan hunter.
TiwazTyrsfist
07-23-07, 10:07 PM I'm pretty sure there are others, or feats, in other books as well.

I'm fairly certain that there is something along those lines in Comp Divine, Liber Mortis, and possible more.

But yeah.
SmiloDan
07-24-07, 12:54 AM The Swift Hunter feat lets a Ranger/Scout get full skirmish damage and crits against favored enemies that are normally immune to crits and sneak attacks.

There are also some nifty trinkets in the Magic Item Compendium that let you crit and sneak attack undead.
Genetic
07-25-07, 12:40 AM Truedeath crystals let you sneak attack undead. (Magic Item Compendium)

Alternate rgoue class feature in Dungeonscape allows you to deal half sneak attack damage to creatures normally immune to sneak attack.
TheCarrionCrawler
08-02-07, 04:43 PM The Swift Hunter feat lets a Ranger/Scout get full skirmish damage and crits against favored enemies that are normally immune to crits and sneak attacks.

There are also some nifty trinkets in the Magic Item Compendium that let you crit and sneak attack undead.

Forgive my ignorance, but where is Swift Hunter found?

CC
Magius_Rerecros
08-02-07, 06:32 PM Complete Scoundrel, page 81
RuckusFox
08-03-07, 02:53 PM Is it just me, or should it be impossible to sneak attack something with no actual anatomy? If it's undead, it doesn't have a "weak spot" per say. If it's an ooze, you can't exactly eviscerate it. Anybody think that sometimes the stuff in the books is all just nonsense and that we should just stick with the core books?
Puca
08-03-07, 03:04 PM Is nonsense that a person who has focused on hurting particular types of creatures and also on hit-and-run tactics is able to make good use of hit-and-run against those same creatures? Not to me.

You can also use spells like Gravestrike or feats like Razing Strike. Both of these require some divine casting power though.
1 ton ghost
08-03-07, 03:30 PM there are feat and spells that enable sneak attack vs. undead...or constructs or whatever rule you wish to cicumnavigate.

Penetrating Stike (Ex) in Dungeonscape seemed like the best. it's an alternate class feature (Rogue), replaces Trap Sense which kinda' sucked to begin w/. basically, you can apply 1/2 your sneak attack die against targets during a FLANK ONLY that are normally immune "to extra damage", etc.

wording is vague, but does this or does it not cover undead, constructs, plants, etc?
RollaD20
08-03-07, 09:27 PM are they NORMALLY immune to sneak atk damage? yes? good then yes it applies to them
runestar
08-03-07, 10:31 PM Is it just me, or should it be impossible to sneak attack something with no actual anatomy? If it's undead, it doesn't have a "weak spot" per say. If it's an ooze, you can't exactly eviscerate it. Anybody think that sometimes the stuff in the books is all just nonsense and that we should just stick with the core books?

In dnd, it is not a matter of whether something is impossible or not, but simply whether you have access to the appropriate splatbook which allows this.;)
Niilo
08-04-07, 07:55 PM Deathstrike Bracers (MIC) is also a nice option.
Aloki
08-05-07, 11:39 AM Think of it this way, you have hunted these creature for SO long, you know how to disrupt the flow of negative energy in their bodies, that you are now able to crit and/or sneak attack them, because of your expertise with the way that the negative energy flows in their bodies
The_Shaman
08-05-07, 02:01 PM Also, a rogue/cleric iirc has a spell that allows him/her to add SA damage against undead. Rogue/mages can do it to constructs. Apart from that, and what people have already said, iirc CPsi Lurks could sneak attack undead.
arderkrag
08-05-07, 06:14 PM There are numerous ways to do this. The way that sticks in my mind is a set of third-party (gasp!) feats - stout heart & death angel. Stout heart requires Iron Will and Great Fortitude and gives a +3 to each, while death angel allows you to sneak attack any undead. Kind of expensive to gain, but worth every bit once you gain it.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Apocolypse_77 07-23-07, 08:44 PM	am i crazy, i know i remeber a prestige class that allowed you to sneak attack undead. Is there actually one that does this? and what book is it in?
Apocolypse_77 07-23-07, 09:21 PM	nevermind i found it, its in miniatures handbook, skullclan hunter.
TiwazTyrsfist 07-23-07, 10:07 PM	I'm pretty sure there are others, or feats, in other books as well. I'm fairly certain that there is something along those lines in Comp Divine, Liber Mortis, and possible more. But yeah.
SmiloDan 07-24-07, 12:54 AM	The Swift Hunter feat lets a Ranger/Scout get full skirmish damage and crits against favored enemies that are normally immune to crits and sneak attacks. There are also some nifty trinkets in the Magic Item Compendium that let you crit and sneak attack undead.
Genetic 07-25-07, 12:40 AM	Truedeath crystals let you sneak attack undead. (Magic Item Compendium) Alternate rgoue class feature in Dungeonscape allows you to deal half sneak attack damage to creatures normally immune to sneak attack.
TheCarrionCrawler 08-02-07, 04:43 PM	The Swift Hunter feat lets a Ranger/Scout get full skirmish damage and crits against favored enemies that are normally immune to crits and sneak attacks. There are also some nifty trinkets in the Magic Item Compendium that let you crit and sneak attack undead. Forgive my ignorance, but where is Swift Hunter found? CC
Magius_Rerecros 08-02-07, 06:32 PM	Complete Scoundrel, page 81
RuckusFox 08-03-07, 02:53 PM	Is it just me, or should it be impossible to sneak attack something with no actual anatomy? If it's undead, it doesn't have a "weak spot" per say. If it's an ooze, you can't exactly eviscerate it. Anybody think that sometimes the stuff in the books is all just nonsense and that we should just stick with the core books?
Puca 08-03-07, 03:04 PM	Is nonsense that a person who has focused on hurting particular types of creatures and also on hit-and-run tactics is able to make good use of hit-and-run against those same creatures? Not to me. You can also use spells like Gravestrike or feats like Razing Strike. Both of these require some divine casting power though.
1 ton ghost 08-03-07, 03:30 PM	there are feat and spells that enable sneak attack vs. undead...or constructs or whatever rule you wish to cicumnavigate. Penetrating Stike (Ex) in Dungeonscape seemed like the best. it's an alternate class feature (Rogue), replaces Trap Sense which kinda' sucked to begin w/. basically, you can apply 1/2 your sneak attack die against targets during a FLANK ONLY that are normally immune "to extra damage", etc. wording is vague, but does this or does it not cover undead, constructs, plants, etc?
RollaD20 08-03-07, 09:27 PM	are they NORMALLY immune to sneak atk damage? yes? good then yes it applies to them
runestar 08-03-07, 10:31 PM	Is it just me, or should it be impossible to sneak attack something with no actual anatomy? If it's undead, it doesn't have a "weak spot" per say. If it's an ooze, you can't exactly eviscerate it. Anybody think that sometimes the stuff in the books is all just nonsense and that we should just stick with the core books? In dnd, it is not a matter of whether something is impossible or not, but simply whether you have access to the appropriate splatbook which allows this.;)
Niilo 08-04-07, 07:55 PM	Deathstrike Bracers (MIC) is also a nice option.
Aloki 08-05-07, 11:39 AM	Think of it this way, you have hunted these creature for SO long, you know how to disrupt the flow of negative energy in their bodies, that you are now able to crit and/or sneak attack them, because of your expertise with the way that the negative energy flows in their bodies
The_Shaman 08-05-07, 02:01 PM	Also, a rogue/cleric iirc has a spell that allows him/her to add SA damage against undead. Rogue/mages can do it to constructs. Apart from that, and what people have already said, iirc CPsi Lurks could sneak attack undead.
arderkrag 08-05-07, 06:14 PM	There are numerous ways to do this. The way that sticks in my mind is a set of third-party (gasp!) feats - stout heart & death angel. Stout heart requires Iron Will and Great Fortitude and gives a +3 to each, while death angel allows you to sneak attack any undead. Kind of expensive to gain, but worth every bit once you gain it.