The Divine Crusader and its Missing Piece [Archive] - Wizards Community

The Divine Crusader and its Missing Piece [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Wall
06-22-07, 10:58 AM Hey folks.

After surfing through a copy of Complete Champion, I thought that it would be fun and flavorful to pay a Divine Crusader (Complete Divine), with the corresponding Domain feat and everything.

So, while looking over the class, I realized something that the rest of you probably noticed a long while ago. The class state no CL for its spells! Even the example character does not have a caster level. So I downloaded the errata, hoping that it might be there, too. No go.

Normally, I would assume that the CL would be equal to the Divine Crusader level, as it would make the most sense. But the 9th level spells there are throwing me off. I think, "Wouldn't some high-level domain spells be ineffective at only CL10?" Although CL = Double class level seems a little weird, it doesn't sound too outrageous (until you get into epics, but let's not go there).

I know, a long post for a simple question. But could anyone please help me out on this? What is the CL for the Divine Crusader?

Thank you for any answers!
Cypher_of_the_Eye
06-22-07, 01:16 PM i think it would go like any multi-class caster.

first level Divine Crusader is CL 1, although you could take Practiced Spellcaster to close the gap a bit. level 20 with CL 14 is pretty sad.

i think it's a better deal to just go Favored Soul. Use teh FS of bahamut from races of the dragon to get Epic DR at lvl 20.
Ainamacar
06-22-07, 01:33 PM I have little doubt the caster level goes up by 1 each level...which is a bit unfortunate if you get something like Holy Word. Anything better than that would be too much of an exception *not* to mention, but it'd be pretty easy to forget plain old +1/level.

You might also consider the Partisan from my sig. I personally found the idea of the Divine Crusader good, but the execution lackluster, and that played a role in deciding to make the new class. It was designed as my idea of a base class with domain-based spellcasting, similar to a Divine Crusader. I've made a whole bunch of new feats for the class which aren't on the boards yet, but the class itself is essentially unchanged since I posted it. (The only change is that they can select appropriate Domain feats as bonus feats, in addition to the other options listed.)

I'm playing a 6th level Partisan at the moment in a game, thus far without problems.

Anyway, please forgive the self-promotion.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Wall 06-22-07, 10:58 AM	Hey folks. After surfing through a copy of Complete Champion, I thought that it would be fun and flavorful to pay a Divine Crusader (Complete Divine), with the corresponding Domain feat and everything. So, while looking over the class, I realized something that the rest of you probably noticed a long while ago. The class state no CL for its spells! Even the example character does not have a caster level. So I downloaded the errata, hoping that it might be there, too. No go. Normally, I would assume that the CL would be equal to the Divine Crusader level, as it would make the most sense. But the 9th level spells there are throwing me off. I think, "Wouldn't some high-level domain spells be ineffective at only CL10?" Although CL = Double class level seems a little weird, it doesn't sound too outrageous (until you get into epics, but let's not go there). I know, a long post for a simple question. But could anyone please help me out on this? What is the CL for the Divine Crusader? Thank you for any answers!
Cypher_of_the_Eye 06-22-07, 01:16 PM	i think it would go like any multi-class caster. first level Divine Crusader is CL 1, although you could take Practiced Spellcaster to close the gap a bit. level 20 with CL 14 is pretty sad. i think it's a better deal to just go Favored Soul. Use teh FS of bahamut from races of the dragon to get Epic DR at lvl 20.
Ainamacar 06-22-07, 01:33 PM	I have little doubt the caster level goes up by 1 each level...which is a bit unfortunate if you get something like Holy Word. Anything better than that would be too much of an exception not to mention, but it'd be pretty easy to forget plain old +1/level. You might also consider the Partisan from my sig. I personally found the idea of the Divine Crusader good, but the execution lackluster, and that played a role in deciding to make the new class. It was designed as my idea of a base class with domain-based spellcasting, similar to a Divine Crusader. I've made a whole bunch of new feats for the class which aren't on the boards yet, but the class itself is essentially unchanged since I posted it. (The only change is that they can select appropriate Domain feats as bonus feats, in addition to the other options listed.) I'm playing a 6th level Partisan at the moment in a game, thus far without problems. Anyway, please forgive the self-promotion.