Vigilante... How is it? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Vigilante... How is it? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Master_Vega
02-02-08, 01:46 PM Vigilante seems a bit underpowered, particularly their smite (though it has the potential for a wider range of targets) seems to be rather limited...

For anything other than flavor reasons, is the class worth taking? I've never been very good at identifying over/underpowered classes.

Thanks!
JaronK
02-02-08, 04:02 PM I've never seen any good use for that class.

JaronK
Pandapeep
02-03-08, 01:44 AM Can you get your dm to believe that they really get 20 3rd lvl spells perday at 7th? "No, no, it's not a typesetting error! The really do have 33 3rd lvl at 10th level!"
RobbyPants
02-03-08, 05:36 PM Personally, I never liked the flavor of the class, similar to the Assassin PrC. Both of them I figured were more of roles or professions than classes, and I didn't like the implementation of either. I felt I could make a better assassin or vigilanty on my own without said classes. Part of my problem is I love Batman, so I tend to measure other vigilantes by him, so when I see a spell list, I automatically get biased.

Can you get your dm to believe that they really get 20 3rd lvl spells perday at 7th? "No, no, it's not a typesetting error! The really do have 33 3rd lvl at 10th level!"
Yeah, that one's great. Hopefully common sense will prevail.
Wih
02-03-08, 09:14 PM It's generally considered quite weak. it does get a couple of interesting tidbits like Mettle, but there's no attraction to the class. Overall, it has the feel of an Urban Ranger/Paladin, but with no full BAB, a d8 HD, mediocre casting and a semi-useless Smite ability. Bonuses to skills are easy to get. It also requires quite a bad feat for entry.
It's very subpar. A decent fix off the top of my head would be something around giving it full BAB, Urban Tracking, or the Investigate feat from ECS as bonus feats down the progression or some nifty way of finding out information about a person (Legend Lore, Locate Person, Find the path or something).
DonThelonious
02-04-08, 02:23 AM I have to agree with everyone else. I was just looking at the Vigilante today in fact and I have to say I am not impressed. The PrC seems more tailored for NPCs you might encounter than something a player would want.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Master_Vega 02-02-08, 01:46 PM	Vigilante seems a bit underpowered, particularly their smite (though it has the potential for a wider range of targets) seems to be rather limited... For anything other than flavor reasons, is the class worth taking? I've never been very good at identifying over/underpowered classes. Thanks!
JaronK 02-02-08, 04:02 PM	I've never seen any good use for that class. JaronK
Pandapeep 02-03-08, 01:44 AM	Can you get your dm to believe that they really get 20 3rd lvl spells perday at 7th? "No, no, it's not a typesetting error! The really do have 33 3rd lvl at 10th level!"
RobbyPants 02-03-08, 05:36 PM	Personally, I never liked the flavor of the class, similar to the Assassin PrC. Both of them I figured were more of roles or professions than classes, and I didn't like the implementation of either. I felt I could make a better assassin or vigilanty on my own without said classes. Part of my problem is I love Batman, so I tend to measure other vigilantes by him, so when I see a spell list, I automatically get biased. Can you get your dm to believe that they really get 20 3rd lvl spells perday at 7th? "No, no, it's not a typesetting error! The really do have 33 3rd lvl at 10th level!" Yeah, that one's great. Hopefully common sense will prevail.
Wih 02-03-08, 09:14 PM	It's generally considered quite weak. it does get a couple of interesting tidbits like Mettle, but there's no attraction to the class. Overall, it has the feel of an Urban Ranger/Paladin, but with no full BAB, a d8 HD, mediocre casting and a semi-useless Smite ability. Bonuses to skills are easy to get. It also requires quite a bad feat for entry. It's very subpar. A decent fix off the top of my head would be something around giving it full BAB, Urban Tracking, or the Investigate feat from ECS as bonus feats down the progression or some nifty way of finding out information about a person (Legend Lore, Locate Person, Find the path or something).
DonThelonious 02-04-08, 02:23 AM	I have to agree with everyone else. I was just looking at the Vigilante today in fact and I have to say I am not impressed. The PrC seems more tailored for NPCs you might encounter than something a player would want.