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Wizard Random 06-15-07, 05:06 PM	Lets say we have Linked Power,Extend Power,MetaPowerx2,Overpower,Earth Power,Torc of Power preservation,Psicrystal Containment,Midnight Augmentation (choosing timeless body) and we stick in at least 4 essentia. It doesn't really matter how you get the essentia, but here is the break down. Timeless body costs 17 PP -1 for Torc -1 for Earth Power -4 for Midnight Augmenation +0 for Meta Power Extend +0 for Meta Power Linked The PP cost would come out to 11 PP for a double duration Timeless body, and of course the loss of a focus to activate the feat. Well now *if we overpower* can can spend 11 more PP making it a linked power choosing Timeless Body once agian using our psi-crystal's focus to use the feat. Now on round 1 we have timeless body going for 2 rounds, but on round 2 it happens agian. If one was to somehow be incarnate of suffcient level we could ignore overpower since it would allow you to have 5 essentia making the cost come out to 20, but then you would need practiced manifester. Also don't worry about the extra essentia. My questin is since you are immune to any effect while under timeless body would it A) Reset the duration B) Work Normally C) Do Nothing
Lafing Cat 06-15-07, 05:22 PM	C) Do nothing. Timeless body ignores both helpful and harmful effects (that affect you), including another Timeless Body. You can't benefit from a second timeless body until the first has expired. As a slight tanget, the Temporal Reiteration trick only works because it targets the Timeless Body, not you. (Also note, this means you can dispel Timeless Body, because it doesn't protect itself)
Wizard Random 06-15-07, 05:49 PM	C) Do nothing. Timeless body ignores both helpful and harmful effects (that affect you), including another Timeless Body. You can't benefit from a second timeless body until the first has expired. As a slight tanget, the Temporal Reiteration trick only works because it targets the Timeless Body, not you. (Also note, this means you can dispel Timeless Body, because it doesn't protect itself) Yea i knew the answer, i was just hoping someone would tell me otherwise. :weep: :weep:
Kiklio 06-16-07, 03:35 PM	A Timeless Body Linked to an Extended Timeless Body isn't so bad. You could pull off all kinds of shenanigans with that kind of invulnerability. Here's a question: Dispelling Buffer has a target of "You". Do the effects of the power cease upon the manifestation of Timeless Body?
CrimsonDeath 06-16-07, 09:11 PM	(Also note, this means you can dispel Timeless Body, because it doesn't protect itself) So, how does Timeless Body interact with Mordenkainen's Disjunction?
zeratulcraft 06-16-07, 09:34 PM	Depends if you run Magic : Psionics Transparency.
Slagger the Chuul 06-16-07, 09:44 PM	Also note, this means you can dispel Timeless Body, because it doesn't protect itself It actually depends on the kind of dispelling used. Only a targeted dispel psionics (or dispel magic) directed against the timeless body itself will have an effect. Targeted dispels against the manifester (rather than the power) and area dispels are blocked by the protection timeless body provides, because the power isn't being affected directly. So, how does Timeless Body interact with Mordenkainen's Disjunction? Assuming that you use transparency (which is the default), timeless body can be disjoined because Mordenkainen's disjunction affects the power directly, rather than the manifester.
Wizard Random 06-17-07, 07:45 PM	Now i am almost positive that everyone knows this, but i was reading up on linked power because i hear people talk about it every now and then. Has anyone noticed that it specficilaly refers to the total cost of the spells as the metapsionic cost? This means if you took Metapower enough times you can manifest powers OUT THE WAZOO for little to no PP. Example at level 20 lets assume i have 10 feats, not a unreasonable assumption for a straight psion. 1 feat is for linked power and the other 9 are Metapowers for linked Power, and we can i don't know choose tornado blast as the meta power. If i was to link power Tornado Blast x2 then the cost would be reduced by 18 points for a total PP cost of 2, 1 point spent per blast. Now while metapower is a bit restrictive there is always Reformation or the Dark Chaos feat shuffle. Whatcha think?
Lycanthromancer 06-17-07, 09:00 PM	I think that 80% of C.Psi is broken, and deserves to be burned alive.
Lafing Cat 06-17-07, 11:45 PM	It actually depends on the kind of dispelling used. Only a targeted dispel psionics (or dispel magic) directed against the timeless body itself will have an effect. Targeted dispels against the manifester (rather than the power) and area dispels are blocked by the protection timeless body provides, because the power isn't being affected directly. Assuming that you use transparency (which is the default), timeless body can be disjoined because Mordenkainen's disjunction affects the power directly, rather than the manifester. To belatedly reply to these responses I agree with them completely. You have to target the power itself, and Disjunction does so (as well as all the other powers in the area)
Wizard Random 06-17-07, 11:45 PM	I think that 80% of C.Psi is broken, and deserves to be burned alive. So i can assume i interpet it correctly?
Psionx 06-18-07, 03:27 PM	Actually, timeless body is great against prismatic sphere problems.
oyster 06-20-07, 03:39 AM	Earth Power specifically states that you cannot use it when you expend your focus to enhance the same power in a different manner. It gives an example of maximize power, but I'd imagine any meta power applies. So, it's one PP you won't be saving...