Autohypnosis - Worth it? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Autohypnosis - Worth it? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Christman
07-11-07, 08:15 PM I'm currently working on a new Elan Psion character that revolves around feats such as Overchannel and Body Fuel. . .that is to say that the idea behind this character is the sacrifice of the body for further mental power. I'm strongly considering going with an Egoist for this very reason, since it would be sort of like using mental power to replace physical power through buffs, psychic attacks, etc. Another reason I would go Egoist is for Autohypnosis.

I've never really used the Autohypnosis skill before, but with this character's concept and some of it's uses I'm curious about it this time around. In your opinion, is Autohypnosis worth the skill points? What are some high points you've had using Autohypnosis? Are there any other skills that go well with Autohypnosis?
InkBlot
07-11-07, 08:39 PM Yes, autohypnosis is worth a few skill points at least. The increased chance of stabilization is great. The memorization ability is fun, but more of an RP thing. You can use it flawlessly remember some piece of trivia you read about in the library, or to record a top secret document, but it won't help you blow up monsters.
yrogerg
07-11-07, 08:42 PM I'm currently working on a new Elan Psion character that revolves around feats such as Overchannel and Body Fuel. . .that is to say that the idea behind this character is the sacrifice of the body for further mental power. I'm strongly considering going with an Egoist for this very reason, since it would be sort of like using mental power to replace physical power through buffs, psychic attacks, etc. Another reason I would go Egoist is for Autohypnosis.

I've never really used the Autohypnosis skill before, but with this character's concept and some of it's uses I'm curious about it this time around. In your opinion, is Autohypnosis worth the skill points? What are some high points you've had using Autohypnosis? Are there any other skills that go well with Autohypnosis?

It can be useful. The second save abilities it grants can be good, and the ability to substitue an Autohypnosis check for some selected saves ain't bad either. Honestly, I think I've most frequenly used it for the Memorize ability, particularly in combination with Craft (Drawing and Painting), or Forgery, it's a fairly potent non-combat ability.
Christman
07-11-07, 08:56 PM Ok, thanks for the feedback. I'll make sure to get some ranks (At least 5) in Autohypnosis.
BlaineTog
07-11-07, 09:41 PM And honestly, as a psion, what else are you using your obscene number of skill points for, hmm?
Christman
07-11-07, 09:46 PM And honestly, as a psion, what else are you using your obscene number of skill points for, hmm?

Aside from Concentration, Knowledge skills, and Psicraft you have a point there.
InkBlot
07-11-07, 10:05 PM "Obscene number?" At low levels, you might have 6 per level counting Int. At realy high levels, maybe 10 per level. A ranger gets 6 per level before addint his Int. Rogues and factotums have obscene numbers of skill points. Psions do not.
Everdreaming
07-11-07, 10:55 PM "Obscene number?" At low levels, you might have 6 per level counting Int. At realy high levels, maybe 10 per level. A ranger gets 6 per level before addint his Int. Rogues and factotums have obscene numbers of skill points. Psions do not.
True. But rogues and them actually have a lot of skills to spend those points on. Wizards and Psions have a fair amount b/c of high int, but only a few skills that they need to keep maxed. So what do they do with the rest?
yrogerg
07-11-07, 11:15 PM "Obscene number?" At low levels, you might have 6 per level counting Int. At realy high levels, maybe 10 per level. A ranger gets 6 per level before subtracting his Int. Rogues and factotums have obscene numbers of skill points. Psions do not.

Fixed it for ya. ;)
InkBlot
07-11-07, 11:51 PM I've played my fair share of rangers, and I've never put less than a 10 into Int.
yrogerg
07-12-07, 12:04 AM I've played my fair share of rangers, and I've never put less than a 10 into Int.

And they were still able to do things like fight, and cast spells?
InkBlot
07-12-07, 12:32 AM Yes. Rangers don't have to be MAD, especialy with Zen Archery.
TorgSmackie
07-12-07, 07:52 AM And they were still able to do things like fight, and cast spells?
Yeah, 'cause putting a 10 in a nonessential stat completely negates your 18 Str and 14 Wis.

What are you playing, 15 point buy?
Fleem
07-12-07, 11:24 AM With Empathic Transfer and max ranks Autohypnosis, no one in the party needs to worry about the secondary save from poison. Of course, you get the same effect from a competent Healer, but not every party has one of those. Autostabilize and Memorize are nice perks, too.
CrimsonDeath
07-12-07, 04:08 PM Ignore Caltrop Wound may not come up often, but when it does, it's nice.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Christman 07-11-07, 08:15 PM	I'm currently working on a new Elan Psion character that revolves around feats such as Overchannel and Body Fuel. . .that is to say that the idea behind this character is the sacrifice of the body for further mental power. I'm strongly considering going with an Egoist for this very reason, since it would be sort of like using mental power to replace physical power through buffs, psychic attacks, etc. Another reason I would go Egoist is for Autohypnosis. I've never really used the Autohypnosis skill before, but with this character's concept and some of it's uses I'm curious about it this time around. In your opinion, is Autohypnosis worth the skill points? What are some high points you've had using Autohypnosis? Are there any other skills that go well with Autohypnosis?
InkBlot 07-11-07, 08:39 PM	Yes, autohypnosis is worth a few skill points at least. The increased chance of stabilization is great. The memorization ability is fun, but more of an RP thing. You can use it flawlessly remember some piece of trivia you read about in the library, or to record a top secret document, but it won't help you blow up monsters.
yrogerg 07-11-07, 08:42 PM	I'm currently working on a new Elan Psion character that revolves around feats such as Overchannel and Body Fuel. . .that is to say that the idea behind this character is the sacrifice of the body for further mental power. I'm strongly considering going with an Egoist for this very reason, since it would be sort of like using mental power to replace physical power through buffs, psychic attacks, etc. Another reason I would go Egoist is for Autohypnosis. I've never really used the Autohypnosis skill before, but with this character's concept and some of it's uses I'm curious about it this time around. In your opinion, is Autohypnosis worth the skill points? What are some high points you've had using Autohypnosis? Are there any other skills that go well with Autohypnosis? It can be useful. The second save abilities it grants can be good, and the ability to substitue an Autohypnosis check for some selected saves ain't bad either. Honestly, I think I've most frequenly used it for the Memorize ability, particularly in combination with Craft (Drawing and Painting), or Forgery, it's a fairly potent non-combat ability.
Christman 07-11-07, 08:56 PM	Ok, thanks for the feedback. I'll make sure to get some ranks (At least 5) in Autohypnosis.
BlaineTog 07-11-07, 09:41 PM	And honestly, as a psion, what else are you using your obscene number of skill points for, hmm?
Christman 07-11-07, 09:46 PM	And honestly, as a psion, what else are you using your obscene number of skill points for, hmm? Aside from Concentration, Knowledge skills, and Psicraft you have a point there.
InkBlot 07-11-07, 10:05 PM	"Obscene number?" At low levels, you might have 6 per level counting Int. At realy high levels, maybe 10 per level. A ranger gets 6 per level before addint his Int. Rogues and factotums have obscene numbers of skill points. Psions do not.
Everdreaming 07-11-07, 10:55 PM	"Obscene number?" At low levels, you might have 6 per level counting Int. At realy high levels, maybe 10 per level. A ranger gets 6 per level before addint his Int. Rogues and factotums have obscene numbers of skill points. Psions do not. True. But rogues and them actually have a lot of skills to spend those points on. Wizards and Psions have a fair amount b/c of high int, but only a few skills that they need to keep maxed. So what do they do with the rest?
yrogerg 07-11-07, 11:15 PM	"Obscene number?" At low levels, you might have 6 per level counting Int. At realy high levels, maybe 10 per level. A ranger gets 6 per level before subtracting his Int. Rogues and factotums have obscene numbers of skill points. Psions do not. Fixed it for ya. ;)
InkBlot 07-11-07, 11:51 PM	I've played my fair share of rangers, and I've never put less than a 10 into Int.
yrogerg 07-12-07, 12:04 AM	I've played my fair share of rangers, and I've never put less than a 10 into Int. And they were still able to do things like fight, and cast spells?
InkBlot 07-12-07, 12:32 AM	Yes. Rangers don't have to be MAD, especialy with Zen Archery.
TorgSmackie 07-12-07, 07:52 AM	And they were still able to do things like fight, and cast spells? Yeah, 'cause putting a 10 in a nonessential stat completely negates your 18 Str and 14 Wis. What are you playing, 15 point buy?
Fleem 07-12-07, 11:24 AM	With Empathic Transfer and max ranks Autohypnosis, no one in the party needs to worry about the secondary save from poison. Of course, you get the same effect from a competent Healer, but not every party has one of those. Autostabilize and Memorize are nice perks, too.
CrimsonDeath 07-12-07, 04:08 PM	Ignore Caltrop Wound may not come up often, but when it does, it's nice.