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Best of both worlds? P.E.A.C.H. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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sijigs
09-18-07, 06:19 PM Build just up to 15th level:

Psionic race > Duskblade 5 > Warmind 5 > Cerebremancer 5

BAB +12
Manifest 14th (w/ practised manifester)
Cast 14th (w/ practised spellcaster)
5th level psychic warrior powers
3rd level duskblade spells
Sweeping strikes
Quickcast 1/day
Arcane channeling

Pros:
Decent survivability
Potential damage is heavy
Decent HPs (d8, d10, d4)
Good overall abilities

Cons:
May struggle against dispelling
MAD (Str, Int, Wis)

Sample trick:
Expend focus, Greater Psionic Weapon (4d6) + Blade of Blood spell, swift (3d6) + Arcane channel, Vampiric Touch, standard action (7d6)

That's an additional 14d6 not including weapon and modifiers. And I wonder with this trick if all modifiers apply with Sweeping Strikes?

PS. Sorry, I may need to reformat this later. :D
Lycanthromancer
09-18-07, 08:15 PM PEACH? Can't I PROBSCAL instead?
sijigs
09-18-07, 08:30 PM uhh.. Sorry, my ranks in Knowledge: Online Forum Humor aren't that high yet.

Or do I need another skill? :cool:
Callix
09-19-07, 04:18 AM Sweeping Strikes will allow you to perform that alpha strike on two people, although it consumes two of your higher-level spells. However, much more cerebremancer is going to screw your BAB. Also, you don't need a psionic race unless you want Psionic Weapon etc before 6th. You can just go 6th: Psionic Weapon, 9th: Greater Psionic Weapon, 12th: Psionic Meditation if the build starts at 9th or later. This only delays either Psionic Meditation or Greater Psionic Weapon a few levels.
Suldarr'essalar
09-19-07, 07:14 AM Cons:
MAD (Str, Int, Wis)

Try intuitive strike (BoED) - use wis bonus to attack with natural weapons instead of str + claws of the beast.
sijigs
09-19-07, 08:07 AM Sweeping Strikes will allow you to perform that alpha strike on two people, although it consumes two of your higher-level spells.

YEAH thought so, too... add cleave = murder. :D

Blade of Blood is only 1st lvl - can u believe it??

However, much more cerebremancer is going to screw your BAB.

Point. Wasn't sure where to go after 15th, to be honest.

Also, you don't need a psionic race unless you want Psionic Weapon etc before 6th. You can just go 6th: Psionic Weapon, 9th: Greater Psionic Weapon, 12th: Psionic Meditation if the build starts at 9th or later. This only delays either Psionic Meditation or Greater Psionic Weapon a few levels.

I need a psionic race to qualify for Warmind.

Feats wise, off the top of my head, I picked 1: power attack > 3: cleave > 6: psionic weapon > 9: prac spellcaster > 12: prac manifester > 15: greater psi weapon

Try intuitive strike (BoED) - use wis bonus to attack with natural weapons instead of str + claws of the beast.

Sorry what book is BoED?

Also, not sure if I can arcane channel through claws?? I'm AFB. :rolleyes:
TheKeyofE
09-19-07, 08:32 AM BoED is Book of Exalted Deeds.

Arcane Channeling says you cast a touch spell and deliver it through your weapon with a melee attack. I would think a natural weapon would qualify.
Bacris
09-19-07, 10:13 AM Ah, but with warmind, the benefit is, you really don't need more psionic levels, because the progression caps at 10th level. You might get more bonus pps and powers that last longer, but you're not going to get anymore powers known or base power points per day.

Practiced Manifester, however, might not be a bad idea for this build :)
PhaedrusXY
09-19-07, 05:34 PM If you go to Cerebremancer 5, there is little reason not to go on to 6th. You get a point of BAB at the even levels. After that, you could go back to Duskblade, or into some "gish" PrC.
sijigs
09-19-07, 07:19 PM BoED is Book of Exalted Deeds.

Ah thanks.

@ Bacris and PhaedrusXY

Yeap. Good ideas..

He will probably go back to being a Duskblade so he's not such a mish-mash although several PrCs are easily attainable.

Thanks, all. :D
cruxvader
09-20-07, 06:10 AM Psions make my heart cry....

VENGEANCE!
Infinitive
09-20-07, 10:14 AM I have to say, this build is hot. In order to finish out your caster progression and keep your BAB high, consider either continuing Duskblade or jumping into Abjurant Champion. Either way, you'll end up with a very impressive spread of magical and psionic capabilities at 20.
sijigs
09-20-07, 07:56 PM Psions make my heart cry....

VENGEANCE!

What the..

I have to say, this build is hot. In order to finish out your caster progression and keep your BAB high, consider either continuing Duskblade or jumping into Abjurant Champion. Either way, you'll end up with a very impressive spread of magical and psionic capabilities at 20.

Don't think Abj Champ would work well because the Duskblade spell list isn't suitable.

But yeah.. hope to use this sometime soon. :D
sijigs
03-25-08, 10:26 PM Bump de bump :bump:

Haven't had the chance to use this build!!! :weep:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sijigs 09-18-07, 06:19 PM	Build just up to 15th level: Psionic race > Duskblade 5 > Warmind 5 > Cerebremancer 5 BAB +12 Manifest 14th (w/ practised manifester) Cast 14th (w/ practised spellcaster) 5th level psychic warrior powers 3rd level duskblade spells Sweeping strikes Quickcast 1/day Arcane channeling Pros: Decent survivability Potential damage is heavy Decent HPs (d8, d10, d4) Good overall abilities Cons: May struggle against dispelling MAD (Str, Int, Wis) Sample trick: Expend focus, Greater Psionic Weapon (4d6) + Blade of Blood spell, swift (3d6) + Arcane channel, Vampiric Touch, standard action (7d6) That's an additional 14d6 not including weapon and modifiers. And I wonder with this trick if all modifiers apply with Sweeping Strikes? PS. Sorry, I may need to reformat this later. :D
Lycanthromancer 09-18-07, 08:15 PM	PEACH? Can't I PROBSCAL instead?
sijigs 09-18-07, 08:30 PM	uhh.. Sorry, my ranks in Knowledge: Online Forum Humor aren't that high yet. Or do I need another skill? :cool:
Callix 09-19-07, 04:18 AM	Sweeping Strikes will allow you to perform that alpha strike on two people, although it consumes two of your higher-level spells. However, much more cerebremancer is going to screw your BAB. Also, you don't need a psionic race unless you want Psionic Weapon etc before 6th. You can just go 6th: Psionic Weapon, 9th: Greater Psionic Weapon, 12th: Psionic Meditation if the build starts at 9th or later. This only delays either Psionic Meditation or Greater Psionic Weapon a few levels.
Suldarr'essalar 09-19-07, 07:14 AM	Cons: MAD (Str, Int, Wis) Try intuitive strike (BoED) - use wis bonus to attack with natural weapons instead of str + claws of the beast.
sijigs 09-19-07, 08:07 AM	Sweeping Strikes will allow you to perform that alpha strike on two people, although it consumes two of your higher-level spells. YEAH thought so, too... add cleave = murder. :D Blade of Blood is only 1st lvl - can u believe it?? However, much more cerebremancer is going to screw your BAB. Point. Wasn't sure where to go after 15th, to be honest. Also, you don't need a psionic race unless you want Psionic Weapon etc before 6th. You can just go 6th: Psionic Weapon, 9th: Greater Psionic Weapon, 12th: Psionic Meditation if the build starts at 9th or later. This only delays either Psionic Meditation or Greater Psionic Weapon a few levels. I need a psionic race to qualify for Warmind. Feats wise, off the top of my head, I picked 1: power attack > 3: cleave > 6: psionic weapon > 9: prac spellcaster > 12: prac manifester > 15: greater psi weapon Try intuitive strike (BoED) - use wis bonus to attack with natural weapons instead of str + claws of the beast. Sorry what book is BoED? Also, not sure if I can arcane channel through claws?? I'm AFB. :rolleyes:
TheKeyofE 09-19-07, 08:32 AM	BoED is Book of Exalted Deeds. Arcane Channeling says you cast a touch spell and deliver it through your weapon with a melee attack. I would think a natural weapon would qualify.
Bacris 09-19-07, 10:13 AM	Ah, but with warmind, the benefit is, you really don't need more psionic levels, because the progression caps at 10th level. You might get more bonus pps and powers that last longer, but you're not going to get anymore powers known or base power points per day. Practiced Manifester, however, might not be a bad idea for this build :)
PhaedrusXY 09-19-07, 05:34 PM	If you go to Cerebremancer 5, there is little reason not to go on to 6th. You get a point of BAB at the even levels. After that, you could go back to Duskblade, or into some "gish" PrC.
sijigs 09-19-07, 07:19 PM	BoED is Book of Exalted Deeds. Ah thanks. @ Bacris and PhaedrusXY Yeap. Good ideas.. He will probably go back to being a Duskblade so he's not such a mish-mash although several PrCs are easily attainable. Thanks, all. :D
cruxvader 09-20-07, 06:10 AM	Psions make my heart cry.... VENGEANCE!
Infinitive 09-20-07, 10:14 AM	I have to say, this build is hot. In order to finish out your caster progression and keep your BAB high, consider either continuing Duskblade or jumping into Abjurant Champion. Either way, you'll end up with a very impressive spread of magical and psionic capabilities at 20.
sijigs 09-20-07, 07:56 PM	Psions make my heart cry.... VENGEANCE! What the.. I have to say, this build is hot. In order to finish out your caster progression and keep your BAB high, consider either continuing Duskblade or jumping into Abjurant Champion. Either way, you'll end up with a very impressive spread of magical and psionic capabilities at 20. Don't think Abj Champ would work well because the Duskblade spell list isn't suitable. But yeah.. hope to use this sometime soon. :D
sijigs 03-25-08, 10:26 PM	Bump de bump :bump: Haven't had the chance to use this build!!! :weep: