Cerebromancer needs HP... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Solstysse

12-30-07, 12:00 AM
I've got my character pretty well set in all way but one...I need HP. Badly. I've got 15 quori shards implanted so I kissed those 15 HP good bye...took imp. toughness *ouch feat loss* to make up for it...but I'm still rolling those dreaded d4's. I've done all I can...bumped my con...vigors on my powers known list...etc. Any other ideas to help me in the area of life...I'm still feeling very glass canon here. I have a high AC...excellent saves...but if they hit me...it's a world of hurt.

Any tricks, items, ideas? I'm playing with about 100,000gp so let 'er rip.

Also, i posted a question that didn't get answered real well. Metamorphasis...if I turn into say, a mountain troll. Do I get his hit dice? Do I get his extra HP due to high con score? Do I keep my HD and my con modified extra HP? This is the only thing I'm up in air about...and really polymorph didn't help...that was someones suggestion.

Thanks!
InkBlot

12-30-07, 12:40 AM
Have you tried Psionic Body?

Also, get a lot of defenses. It's better to not get hit in the first place. Greater concealing amorpha, maxed augmented inertial armor, a +5 mithral/darkwood buckler, extended energy adaptation, power resistance, personal mind blank, et cetera. Also, don't be close enough to get hit. Fly above the danger with fly, overland flight, levitate, or even on the back of a flying astral construct. Even just two of these defenses can save you hundreds of HP.
CrimsonDeath

12-30-07, 04:04 AM
What level? I'm guessing you're a Psion/Wizard? What's your primary discipline? Did you specialize? Did you use Precocious Apprentice to qualify for Cerebremancer early? What books can you use?

If you just prepare Polymorph (or any level 4 or higher spell from the Polymorph subschool), there's a Reserve feat from Complete Mage that you can use to gain temporary HP as a Swift action. That might not be so good for a Cerebremancer, though; you'll want to cast some Swift and Quickened spells and powers so that you don't wind up with a lot of spell slots and PP left over at the end of the day (although that problem can be mitigated by preparing several long-duration defensive spells and powers, and keeping them up constantly).
draco1119

12-30-07, 04:37 AM
Have you tried Psionic Body?
Seconded. An extra 2 HP for every Psionic (and Metapsionic!) feat you have is going to be nothing to sneeze at.
CrimsonDeath

12-30-07, 06:20 AM
Seconded. An extra 2 HP for every Psionic (and Metapsionic!) feat you have is going to be nothing to sneeze at.

Might be something to sneeze at for a Cerebremancer, who's splitting his feats building his Psionic and Arcane abilities.

Also, I don't think Metapsionic feats count as Psionic feats for the purpose of Psionic Body.
Sjiggie

12-30-07, 09:44 AM
Do you have a psicrystal? If not get one when you are able to and share your vigor with it and manifest share pain on it. Getting double hp out of your vigor because half of it goes to your psicrystal.
The_Mess

12-30-07, 12:15 PM
Also, I don't think Metapsionic feats count as Psionic feats for the purpose of Psionic Body.

So, I ran over to the SRD to show you how UTTERLY WRONG you so clearly were and...

Uh...

Huh.

Yes, well, who cares about the rules anyway.
Solstysse

12-30-07, 02:57 PM
Just to start let me say these forums and the posters are awesome for so many good ideas. I'll give a little more info on my character so everyone knows what I'm working with. Bear with me...this is my first dnd character, I tried.
3 psion egoist/3 specialized polymorph subschool wizard (prohibited illusion/enchantment) with the wizard variant of forgoing a familiar for a fly/swim/climb speed my int mod in times a day/cerebromancer 9. Stats: str 15, dex 18, con 16, int 22, wis 16, cha 13. (all modified by a shard giving +2 ench. bonus) Saves: fort/ref 18, will 21 (mods vest and armor bumps) AC 19 bases w/o any power modifications. Feats: psicrystal affinity, alertness via crystal, imp. toughness, max. power, scribe scroll, combat familiar (my dm counts crystal as familiar blah), practicer manifester, practiced caster, metamorphic transfer. HP: base 93.
She is a weird modification on race though, she's half kalashtar half maenad which my dm allowed because the plot of the game has alot to do with quori trying to find and breed better vessels for possession. Don't worry, she's balanced and not obscene.
Powers known (28): force screen, vigor, synesthete, crystal shard, mindthrust, precog defense and offense, emp transfer, swarm of crystals, chameleon, animal affinity, touchsight, mental barrier, energy retort, forced share pain, energy adaptation, body adjustment, telekenetic manuver, death urge, metamorphasis, power resistance, restore extremity, psychic crush, psionic revivify, breath of the black dragon, temporal excelleration, fuse flesh, disintegrate.
She also has 9 power point shards in her...which make her a scary beast sometimes.
Almost all of her money (shes a miser) was dumped into two things, armor and a weapon.
Armor: +5 silk armor, max dex +8, -1 acp, 15lbs, SR/PR (same in the game) 17 +4 property. Total AC bump +8. Non "+" properties : agility/stamina, imp agility/stamina, greater agility/stamina.
Weapon: (made to work with my constantly changing shape and size) +1 keen psychic morphing dagger of last resort. Non "+" properties : sizing and vanishing. For Flavour : permancy presdigitation so it always changes colors...i'm a girl...sue me. If I can't have my dang unicorn I want a pretty weapon! LoL.
Equipment: 2 rings of arming for switching out each other and other goodies, healing belt, vampiric torc (in ring one), torc of the titans (in ring 2), retributive amulet (ring 2), hellcat gauntlets, amulet of emergency healing.
I have so much healing on me (potions, scrolls, etc on me it's nuts but I stand a good chance of getting killed in one shot...we play in eberron...on the island that has all the dragons. I won't attempt to spell it because I'm convinced it was not meant to be spelled...just said outloud.


Psionic Body wont help much...not many psi feats. I am rocking 257 power points so I use those to the full extent of vigor and all my AC buffs everytime. I have my psicrystal ready to revivify if I fall and I've got emergency healing...but I'm still worried. I'm the only character standing at the end of battles, the only one to not die in a 10 month long campaign, I'm trying to be careful so I don't get cocky. I'm also the party healer basically...but when all else falls, no one can hit it...the look at me and scream "mindthrust it nooooow". Multitasking is hard...meh. Can't be perfect at everything.
Scion of Coldshard

12-30-07, 03:38 PM
False life lasts 15 hours at your level and you dont really care about 2nd level slots anyway so use that whenever possible since it is cheaper and longer lasting than vigor. You could research a higher level version of it as well.

Going for the spell 'improved blink' will likely fix you up as well. With that and a greater version of false life along with spell turning you are unlikely to ever have to worry again ;)
CrimsonDeath

12-30-07, 03:43 PM
I didn't know you could specialize in a subschool of magic...

So what spells do you have in your spellbook? And do you have much cash on hand for buying and copying new spells?
Scion of Coldshard

12-30-07, 04:31 PM
I didn't know you could specialize in a subschool of magic...

I had assumed he meant conjuration specialist from unearthed arcana.. but maybe not.. hmm..
Solstysse

12-30-07, 04:35 PM
Mmmm...false life...yummy. Using vigor to give hp to my psicrystal is always fun in addition.

Spells aren't much of a problem. My character has access to the rekkenmark (sp?) academy's library, my characters' mothers spellbook and the spellbook of a lvl 11 wizard that an evil npc sent me...along with the tounge of my characters childhood love nailed to the front of it. In our last campaign we defeated vedim olrik omar (sp?) and gained access to books he had giving us spells from ghostwalk and libris mortis too. If I don't have it...I can get it and I'm fine as far as copying it down goes moneywise. When my int went up considerably since the last campaign ended I switched from playing my character as a more chaotic character to a more neutral character and a bit of a book worm. She's gone as far as to relentlessly quiz a dragon who we're freindly towards about his special abilities, breath weapon, size and make drawings and diagrams of him. Afterall it is roleplaying...not just character stats on a page.

I think polymorph is a subschool of transmutation? That's what I meant, sorry. The big thing is that she's verstile...and being an egoist and specialized wizard makes her what I had envisioned. Polymorphing in any form makes you pretty scary sometimes. :)
Omen_of_Peace

12-30-07, 07:25 PM
- Heart of Earth (CM) grants temp. HP and can be expended to get DR 10/adamantine for 1 round/level.
- Greater Mirror Image (PHB2) is a great immediate-action defensive spell
- you could use your Quori Shards to get a crazy AC bonus from Inertial Armor (Force Screen is generally not a very good use of an action at high levels IMHO)
Sinfire Titan

12-31-07, 01:33 AM
I had assumed he meant conjuration specialist from unearthed arcana.. but maybe not.. hmm..

Transmutation. The variant is from the PH2. And the OP is a girl.
Solstysse

12-31-07, 01:44 AM
If OP = original poster (?) then yeah I'm a girl. And it is in PHB2 come to think of it. it's under trans but everyone gets it I think.

On a different topic, odd but cool, Scion of Coldshard...you're in Columbia. Me too. Crazyness!
draco1119

12-31-07, 04:27 AM
On a different topic, odd but cool, Scion of Coldshard...you're in Columbia. Me too. Crazyness!
And I'd never even heard of the place until my brother met his wife. She's Columbia born and bred (even though they now live in Monmouth, IL).

*cues Disney music*
Sinfire Titan

12-31-07, 05:55 AM
Good idea for HP reserves: Shared Pain+Augmented Vigor+Share Power on Psicrystal. Gives you a nice amount of temporary HP to chuck, and lasts for 10 min/ML.
Solstysse

12-31-07, 10:39 AM
I'm looking forward to being neigh unkillable. *crosses fingers* I almost killed my husband with a gelatinous cube last night in my game...lol...opps. So I'm sure he'll dream up an embarrasing way to kill me. Or turn me into an evil character when I leave for military stuff soon. Now that would be scary. I may be their level but they're no where near as deadly right out of the gate.

Columbia isn't that bad...it's just smaller than alot of people like. We have alot of rp's here ironically...and when you game with new people they undoubtedly know someone else you've gamed with. This can be good...or bad depending.
Scion of Coldshard

12-31-07, 06:01 PM
If OP = original poster (?) then yeah I'm a girl. And it is in PHB2 come to think of it. it's under trans but everyone gets it I think.

On a different topic, odd but cool, Scion of Coldshard...you're in Columbia. Me too. Crazyness!

Hello fellow columbian then ;) And I still think that an improved version of false life plus improved blink plus spell turning of some sort is the way to go. It will protect you from nearly everything..lol

Columbia is basically a small town that tries to be a big city but doesnt quite make it, which puts it in a weird limbo zone of not quite any good category. Ever since the cat shut down I've had trouble finding people to game with although I do head up to the gate now and then. Plus school and work take up the vast majority of my time ;)
Solstysse

12-31-07, 10:36 PM
All I need now is evasion...making it away from dragons' breath weapons is tough...I can normally make the ref save for half....but half...ouch. Thinking about boots of sidestepping...but sometimes I call enough attention to myself to warrent a cone all too myself...or I'm flying...can you make a 5foot when you're flying?! One questions leads another!

I miss the Cat....my hubby was the dm there for a long time.
Sinfire Titan

12-31-07, 11:47 PM
All I need now is evasion...making it away from dragons' breath weapons is tough...I can normally make the ref save for half....but half...ouch. Thinking about boots of sidestepping...but sometimes I call enough attention to myself to warrent a cone all too myself...or I'm flying...can you make a 5foot when you're flying?! One questions leads another!

I miss the Cat....my hubby was the dm there for a long time.

Ring of Evasion, DMG.
Scion of Coldshard

12-31-07, 11:47 PM
With blink you take half damage from area attacks before any saving. So if you normally make the save then you are down to only 1/4 of the normal damage ;)

At your level energy adaptation gives you resistance 30 to all energy types for 150 minutes per manifestation. That should fix the rest of the damage.

If you are taking a significant amount of damage from the area attack after it is reduced by 1/4 and then 30 is taken off of it then you are likely way, way over your head with that threat!!
CrimsonDeath

12-31-07, 11:49 PM
can you make a 5foot when you're flying?!

Depends on your maneuverability. If it's Good or Perfect, I think so.
Solstysse

01-01-08, 02:24 AM
Sadly I'm out of ring slots. I could try and switch around something...I have energy adaptation...last game I remember taking 30 from a breathe weapon but i may have forgotten to halve the damage before I applied the ER. One problem with my character is that she's got so much going on it's hard to keep track of...and my group doesn't stop talking...loudly...ever. I'm thinking a roll of duct tape (walmart, isle 4) would be the appropriate "magic" item for this problem. I've heard they're cheap. LoL.

I'm actually not sure what my flight is like, I don't use it much besides going in a straight line or flying to find a perch somewhere. I'll check that out. That would be awesome if I could do that...hmmmm. *plots*
Sinfire Titan

01-01-08, 03:56 AM
Sadly I'm out of ring slots. I could try and switch around something...I have energy adaptation...last game I remember taking 30 from a breathe weapon but i may have forgotten to halve the damage before I applied the ER. One problem with my character is that she's got so much going on it's hard to keep track of...and my group doesn't stop talking...loudly...ever. I'm thinking a roll of duct tape (walmart, isle 4) would be the appropriate "magic" item for this problem. I've heard they're cheap. LoL.

I'm actually not sure what my flight is like, I don't use it much besides going in a straight line or flying to find a perch somewhere. I'll check that out. That would be awesome if I could do that...hmmmm. *plots*

If it is through a Spell or Power, then it is perfect. The Errata says nothing about the ACF for Transmutation specs. Assume Average. As for ring slots:

Hand of Glory

This mummified human hand hangs by a leather cord around a character’s neck (taking up space as a magic necklace would). If a magic ring is placed on one of the fingers of the hand, the wearer benefits from the ring as if wearing it herself, and it does not count against her two-ring limit. The hand can wear only one ring at a time. Even without a ring, the hand itself allows its wearer to use daylight and see invisibility each once per day.

Faint varied; CL 5th; Craft Wondrous Item, animate dead, daylight, see invisibility; Price 8,000 gp; Weight 2 lb.

And if that doesn't work, there is a magic weapon that allows you to put a ring on it and gain the benefits as long as you hold the weapon. It is in the Arms and Equipment Guide, old, but still legal.
Solstysse

01-01-08, 11:43 AM
My flight was acheieved through the wizard variant where you give up your familiar for a benefit dependant on your school specialization, mine is transmutation so my benefit was gaining a fly/swim/climb speed equal to your land speed for your int mod in times per day. Not bad. And since I already had a psicrystal and a cohort...I was sick of leveling other characters, roleplaying them, healing/repairing them and such that I decided against getting another critter. There are 6 players in the game and me adding 3 other ones in essense was not a good idea. Before the game we just began started I chose to retrain my leadership feat though and worked something out with my DM so that he would be returned to the person who gave him to me, the matriarch of house lyrander (he was a cute little grimlakin from MM2).

I think I could work it so that my necklaces switch out just like my rings would with the ring of arming trick...or I could alway pay the ridiculous price of getting the property in a different slotted magic item. I have no gloves or bracers so that might be an option too. I've used this technique before to hide magical items in mudane clothing (sleep spike used as a heel within a normal pair of high heel shoes that I used to knockout a gnoll npc who'd killed my party member's father...it was a hoot especially since my character went all out to pump up her bluff checks, cloaked her own smell, and looked just like a pale white gnoll...ah gnolls I love those guys) so I'm sure my dm wouldn't see anything wrong with his npc's getting that much more of my "horde".
Jaid

01-01-08, 01:52 PM
Evade Burst
Psychometabolism
Level: Psion/wilder 7, psychic warrior 3
Display: Material
Manifesting Time: 1 immediate action
Range: Personal
Target: You
Duration: Instantaneous
Power Points: Psion/wilder 13, psychic warrior 5

You throw off a faux ectoplasmic shell, allowing you to slide out of range of a damaging effect. When you manifest this power in conjunction with making a successful Reflex save against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, you instead take no damage.

You can manifest this power with an instant thought, quickly enough to save yourself if you unexpectedly come within range of a dangerous effect. Manifesting this power is an immediate action. You can even manifest this power when it isn’t your turn.

Augment
If you spend 4 additional power points, you take only half damage on a failed Reflex save.

psychic chirurgery time? if you can manage to swipe it from a psychic warrior, that's relatively cheap...
CrimsonDeath

01-01-08, 02:08 PM
psychic chirurgery time? if you can manage to swipe it from a psychic warrior, that's relatively cheap...

How is a Psychic Warrior going to manifest Psychic Chirurgery?

Expanded Knowledge might work though.
Solstysse

01-01-08, 03:58 PM
I don't think I can manifest that though, I can only manifest things up to 6th level powers currently because of my build. If I aquired the power from a different source and had the power points could it happen?
Jaid

01-01-08, 04:24 PM
it's a psychic warrior level 3 power. technically, you can use expanded knowledge to learn it as a level 3 power. or, you can have it implanted via psychic chirurgery as a level 3 power, provided you can find someone who knows it as a level 3 power and also knows psychic chirurgery. you could also theoretically learn it via research as a level 3 power, although that one is a little more iffy.
Nabuchadnezzar

01-01-08, 05:56 PM
Or you can make a telepath take it via psychic reformation and expanded knowledge, then make him implant that power via psychic chirurgery, then re-change the feat via psychic reformation.

It would cost 2 psychic reformation (up to 3 levels) and the psychic chirurgery itself.

1st psychic reformation: 280 (base cost) + 750 (xp) = 1030 gp
psychic chirurgery: 1530 (base cost) + 15000 (xp) = 16530 gp
2nd psychic reformation: 280 (base cost) + 750 (xp) = 1030 gp

You can avoid part of the psychic reformation cost if YOU manifest it on the telepath.
He will lose half xp, so it will still cost 375 gp each for the two psyrefs...
Solstysse

01-01-08, 07:43 PM
My dm will probably cross his eyes at me for that...and it will make him seem like he's favouring me more than other players. Or at least that's what they'll think...even though one of the other PCs basically got an airship dropped in his lap. *rolls eyes* Need I mention...it was free...house stuff.