[Creature] You think, therefore I am [Archive] - Wizards Community

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The Vorpal Tribble
07-29-07, 10:10 PM Feel this is missing something, but can't quite place it...

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Symbiotic Mind, Inspirator

Large Outsider (Extraplanar, Incarnum, Incorporeal, Psionic, Symbiont)
Hit Dice: 4d8+16 HD (34 hp)
Initiative: +7
Speed: Fly 40 ft. (perfect)
Armor Class: 17 (+4 deflection, +3 dex), touch 17, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +4/-
Attack: Incorporeal touch +7 melee (1d6)
Full Attack: Incorporeal touch +7 melee (1d6)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft.
Special Attacks: Mind feeding
Special Qualities: Detect thoughts, ephiphany, immunity to mind-affecting effects, incorporeal traits, naturally psionic, psoulful, share powers, symbiont traits
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +7, Will +6
Abilities: Str -, Dex 17, Con 19, Int 2, Wis 11, Cha 18
Skills: Listen +3, Spot +4
Feats: Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Weapon Finesse(B)
Environment: Astral Plane, Region of Dreams, or Any
Organization: Solitary (symbiont)
Challenge Rating: 3
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: -
Level Adjustment: -

In the light this creature appears as little more than luminescent dust motes continually twisting within the air, though are particularly thick around the cerebrum of the host they have chosen to bond with. In darkness however its full form can be seen, a beautiful phenomena that resembles the blue-tinted reflection of sunlight underwater, all jeweled, ever-changing patterns. It rises from its host and gradually peters out several meters above, fading away into the ethereal.

Many have said to put have all their mind and soul into something. Such is literally the case for this creature. An inspirator, also known as a symbiotic mind, might possibly have been the spark of life in a being that was to become a being of great genius. Or was once this being's driving focus, incarnum blurring the line of whens. However it came to be, when the psionic energies infused the incarnum it became aware. As all beings possessed of mind and spirit know, this is a naturally unstable, if not entirely natural, combination. Unwilling to await the call of another, to birth within the unborn or melded by the hands of one who had, it sought out another on its own grounds.

From a state of inpotentia to pure living potential, at the moment of its consciousness it was banished from its former existence to a new one where thought had purpose and direction. Most inspirators find themselves within the Astral Plane or Region of Dreams, and are suckled upon the raw energy of thought. Only when a mind draws them, resonates with them in some way, do they cross over to bond.

An inspirator can communicate telepathically with its host, though is otherwise unable to speak.

Combat
An inspirator is not a combatant in any sense, and if it sense hostility towards itself it is quick to flee. If it is bonded with a host it flares up brightly and feeds to them the thoughts of the aggressor as it leans forward to envelope them in its energy.

Detect Thoughts (Ps): An inspirator may use Detect Thoughts as the spell at will, though is not negatively affected by creatures with high intelligence scores. An inspirator's host may draw upon knowledge of the results at will.

Mind Feeding (Su): An inspirator survives by consuming its host's energy of soul and mind. This deals 1 point of Constitution and 2 Intelligence damage each day the inspirator remains bonded. An inspirator's own intelligence increases by 1 each day (consuming the other point) until it equal 3/4ths the host's healthy total. From this point forward it only deals 1 point of intelligence damage. Ordinarily, the host regains 1 lost point of Constitution and Intelligence each night, just before the inspirator drains a new point, keeping the host at an equilibrium point of -1 to its base Constitution and Intelligence.

If an inspirator is somehow removed from its host, it loses 1 point of intelligence per day until it rebonds with another or its score is lowered to 0 at which point the psionic energy disipates and the incarnum returns to join back with the mass.

Naturally Psionic (Ex): An inspirator gains 1 bonus power point. When an inspirator bonds with its host for the first time it instinctively adjusts its host's mental pathways, allowing it to tap into its inherent psionic power. The host is considered to have gained the Wild Talent feat, retaining the benefits even if the inspirator is killed or is somehow unbonded from its host.

Epiphany (Su): An inspirator's bond inspires its host and enhances memory and creativity. While bonded the host gains a +6 bonus to Craft and Perform checks. As well, the host may manifest the following powers at a manifester level equal to its HD. The save DC's are Charisma-based.

3/day - Call to Mind
1/day - *Realized Potential

* From Complete Psionic.

Psoulful (Su): An inspirator allows its host to bind a chakra to its crown and gains an essentia pool of 4, granting it the incarnum subtype. The host gains the knowledge to shape the Crystal Helm, Enigma Helm, and Soulspeaker Circlet soulmeld.

Share Powers (Su): At the host’s option, he can have any power (but not any psi-like ability) he manifests on himself also affect his symbiont. The symbiont must be within 5 feet of him at the time of the manifestation to receive the benefit. If the power has a duration other than instantaneous, it stops affecting the symbiont if it moves farther than 5 feet away, and will not affect the symbiont again, even if it returns to its owner before the duration expires.
Additionally, the owner can manifest a power with a target of “You” on his symbiont (as a touch range power) instead of on himself. The owner and symbiont can share powers even if the powers normally do not affect creatures of the symbiont’s type (outsider).
TheKeyofE
07-29-07, 10:17 PM Eeek! Too many subtypes!
The Vorpal Tribble
07-29-07, 10:52 PM Eeek! Too many subtypes!
Ain't there though? :D
BloodSpill
07-30-07, 07:23 AM Are you absolutely sure that's the right amount of healing of ability damage? I'd double check that were I you.
kyeudo
07-30-07, 04:13 PM I like the idea of a Psionic symbiont, but this seems to be doing too much all at once. Most symbionts do one thing, such as a Crawling Gauntlet only gives its host a single claw attack. This symbiont does a lot of different things, and they don't harmonize.

My sugestions:
Get rid of the Incarnum. I like the two systems, and border-line stuff is sometimes pretty good, but in this case having Incarnum in my Psionics is bad for flavor.

Don't have this creature die so fast. As written, it dies in roughly 2 days. If it loses a host of average intelligence, it dies in about a week. A Breed Leech, on the other hand, can live for weeks without a host.

Is Outsider realy the best type for this creature? Its a free floating, disembodied conciousness, essentialy the same as an Unbodied, which are Monstrous Humanoids. As creatures of pure psionic power, Elemental also would seem better for this creature.
The Vorpal Tribble
07-30-07, 04:46 PM I like the idea of a Psionic symbiont, but this seems to be doing too much all at once. Most symbionts do one thing, such as a Crawling Gauntlet only gives its host a single claw attack. This symbiont does a lot of different things, and they don't harmonize.
It is a more complex symbiont than those other to, for more high-leveled characters.

Get rid of the Incarnum. I like the two systems, and border-line stuff is sometimes pretty good, but in this case having Incarnum in my Psionics is bad for flavor.
That would kind of kill the flavor of it.

Don't have this creature die so fast. As written, it dies in roughly 2 days. If it loses a host of average intelligence, it dies in about a week. A Breed Leech, on the other hand, can live for weeks without a host.
This one is not your standard flesh and blood creature either. This also tames it down a bit from everything else it can do that you thought was a bit much.

Is Outsider realy the best type for this creature? Its a free floating, disembodied conciousness, essentialy the same as an Unbodied, which are Monstrous Humanoids. As creatures of pure psionic power, Elemental also would seem better for this creature.
It is not a creature of pure psionic power, it is the mental and spirtual potential of a being either dead or not yet conceived.

It is not a monstrous humanoid in any fashion, and it comes from another plane than the material.

Elementals are formed from the building blocks of matter. The only type I know of that isn't is the Taint Elemental, but its a freak.

This... doesn't have the slightest thing in common however with any kind of elemental.
InkBlot
07-31-07, 02:15 AM This is pretty cool. I could see these things drifting around with the half-born ideas of dead geniuses, infecting hosts with the desire to do crazy brilliant things (like building infinite loops with teleport circles or inventing a new kind of candy that doesn't melt in your pocket).

Detect Thoughts (Ps): An inspirator may use Detect Thoughts as the spell at will, though is not negatively affected by creatures with high intelligence scores. An inspirator's host may draw upon knowledge of the results at will.
Are you sure you wouldn't rather base this psi-like ability off of the psionic power read thoughts instead?
The Vorpal Tribble
07-31-07, 10:18 AM Are you sure you wouldn't rather base this psi-like ability off of the psionic power read thoughts instead?
Well, except with Read Thoughts you can't determine an Intelligence score. This thing tends to be attracted to the brainy.
InkBlot
07-31-07, 12:51 PM OK, I see. Read thoughts can only distinguish between no intelligence (0), animal intelligence (1-2), sentience (3 or more), and overwhelming intelligence (26 or more).

I suppose I would have said "An inspirator may use read thoughts as the power at will, though is not negatively affected by creatures with high intelligence scores. An inspirator's host may draw upon knowledge of the results at will. An inspirator can use this ability to determine the Intelligence score of any creature which fails to save against this ability."

But your way works fine.

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The Vorpal Tribble 07-29-07, 10:10 PM	Feel this is missing something, but can't quite place it... -=-=-=-=-=-=- Symbiotic Mind, Inspirator Large Outsider (Extraplanar, Incarnum, Incorporeal, Psionic, Symbiont) Hit Dice: 4d8+16 HD (34 hp) Initiative: +7 Speed: Fly 40 ft. (perfect) Armor Class: 17 (+4 deflection, +3 dex), touch 17, flat-footed 14 Base Attack/Grapple: +4/- Attack: Incorporeal touch +7 melee (1d6) Full Attack: Incorporeal touch +7 melee (1d6) Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft. Special Attacks: Mind feeding Special Qualities: Detect thoughts, ephiphany, immunity to mind-affecting effects, incorporeal traits, naturally psionic, psoulful, share powers, symbiont traits Saves: Fort +9, Ref +7, Will +6 Abilities: Str -, Dex 17, Con 19, Int 2, Wis 11, Cha 18 Skills: Listen +3, Spot +4 Feats: Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Weapon Finesse(B) Environment: Astral Plane, Region of Dreams, or Any Organization: Solitary (symbiont) Challenge Rating: 3 Treasure: None Alignment: Always neutral Advancement: - Level Adjustment: - In the light this creature appears as little more than luminescent dust motes continually twisting within the air, though are particularly thick around the cerebrum of the host they have chosen to bond with. In darkness however its full form can be seen, a beautiful phenomena that resembles the blue-tinted reflection of sunlight underwater, all jeweled, ever-changing patterns. It rises from its host and gradually peters out several meters above, fading away into the ethereal. Many have said to put have all their mind and soul into something. Such is literally the case for this creature. An inspirator, also known as a symbiotic mind, might possibly have been the spark of life in a being that was to become a being of great genius. Or was once this being's driving focus, incarnum blurring the line of whens. However it came to be, when the psionic energies infused the incarnum it became aware. As all beings possessed of mind and spirit know, this is a naturally unstable, if not entirely natural, combination. Unwilling to await the call of another, to birth within the unborn or melded by the hands of one who had, it sought out another on its own grounds. From a state of inpotentia to pure living potential, at the moment of its consciousness it was banished from its former existence to a new one where thought had purpose and direction. Most inspirators find themselves within the Astral Plane or Region of Dreams, and are suckled upon the raw energy of thought. Only when a mind draws them, resonates with them in some way, do they cross over to bond. An inspirator can communicate telepathically with its host, though is otherwise unable to speak. Combat An inspirator is not a combatant in any sense, and if it sense hostility towards itself it is quick to flee. If it is bonded with a host it flares up brightly and feeds to them the thoughts of the aggressor as it leans forward to envelope them in its energy. Detect Thoughts (Ps): An inspirator may use Detect Thoughts as the spell at will, though is not negatively affected by creatures with high intelligence scores. An inspirator's host may draw upon knowledge of the results at will. Mind Feeding (Su): An inspirator survives by consuming its host's energy of soul and mind. This deals 1 point of Constitution and 2 Intelligence damage each day the inspirator remains bonded. An inspirator's own intelligence increases by 1 each day (consuming the other point) until it equal 3/4ths the host's healthy total. From this point forward it only deals 1 point of intelligence damage. Ordinarily, the host regains 1 lost point of Constitution and Intelligence each night, just before the inspirator drains a new point, keeping the host at an equilibrium point of -1 to its base Constitution and Intelligence. If an inspirator is somehow removed from its host, it loses 1 point of intelligence per day until it rebonds with another or its score is lowered to 0 at which point the psionic energy disipates and the incarnum returns to join back with the mass. Naturally Psionic (Ex): An inspirator gains 1 bonus power point. When an inspirator bonds with its host for the first time it instinctively adjusts its host's mental pathways, allowing it to tap into its inherent psionic power. The host is considered to have gained the Wild Talent feat, retaining the benefits even if the inspirator is killed or is somehow unbonded from its host. Epiphany (Su): An inspirator's bond inspires its host and enhances memory and creativity. While bonded the host gains a +6 bonus to Craft and Perform checks. As well, the host may manifest the following powers at a manifester level equal to its HD. The save DC's are Charisma-based. 3/day - Call to Mind 1/day - Realized Potential From Complete Psionic. Psoulful (Su): An inspirator allows its host to bind a chakra to its crown and gains an essentia pool of 4, granting it the incarnum subtype. The host gains the knowledge to shape the Crystal Helm, Enigma Helm, and Soulspeaker Circlet soulmeld. Share Powers (Su): At the host’s option, he can have any power (but not any psi-like ability) he manifests on himself also affect his symbiont. The symbiont must be within 5 feet of him at the time of the manifestation to receive the benefit. If the power has a duration other than instantaneous, it stops affecting the symbiont if it moves farther than 5 feet away, and will not affect the symbiont again, even if it returns to its owner before the duration expires. Additionally, the owner can manifest a power with a target of “You” on his symbiont (as a touch range power) instead of on himself. The owner and symbiont can share powers even if the powers normally do not affect creatures of the symbiont’s type (outsider).
TheKeyofE 07-29-07, 10:17 PM	Eeek! Too many subtypes!
The Vorpal Tribble 07-29-07, 10:52 PM	Eeek! Too many subtypes! Ain't there though? :D
BloodSpill 07-30-07, 07:23 AM	Are you absolutely sure that's the right amount of healing of ability damage? I'd double check that were I you.
kyeudo 07-30-07, 04:13 PM	I like the idea of a Psionic symbiont, but this seems to be doing too much all at once. Most symbionts do one thing, such as a Crawling Gauntlet only gives its host a single claw attack. This symbiont does a lot of different things, and they don't harmonize. My sugestions: Get rid of the Incarnum. I like the two systems, and border-line stuff is sometimes pretty good, but in this case having Incarnum in my Psionics is bad for flavor. Don't have this creature die so fast. As written, it dies in roughly 2 days. If it loses a host of average intelligence, it dies in about a week. A Breed Leech, on the other hand, can live for weeks without a host. Is Outsider realy the best type for this creature? Its a free floating, disembodied conciousness, essentialy the same as an Unbodied, which are Monstrous Humanoids. As creatures of pure psionic power, Elemental also would seem better for this creature.
The Vorpal Tribble 07-30-07, 04:46 PM	I like the idea of a Psionic symbiont, but this seems to be doing too much all at once. Most symbionts do one thing, such as a Crawling Gauntlet only gives its host a single claw attack. This symbiont does a lot of different things, and they don't harmonize. It is a more complex symbiont than those other to, for more high-leveled characters. Get rid of the Incarnum. I like the two systems, and border-line stuff is sometimes pretty good, but in this case having Incarnum in my Psionics is bad for flavor. That would kind of kill the flavor of it. Don't have this creature die so fast. As written, it dies in roughly 2 days. If it loses a host of average intelligence, it dies in about a week. A Breed Leech, on the other hand, can live for weeks without a host. This one is not your standard flesh and blood creature either. This also tames it down a bit from everything else it can do that you thought was a bit much. Is Outsider realy the best type for this creature? Its a free floating, disembodied conciousness, essentialy the same as an Unbodied, which are Monstrous Humanoids. As creatures of pure psionic power, Elemental also would seem better for this creature. It is not a creature of pure psionic power, it is the mental and spirtual potential of a being either dead or not yet conceived. It is not a monstrous humanoid in any fashion, and it comes from another plane than the material. Elementals are formed from the building blocks of matter. The only type I know of that isn't is the Taint Elemental, but its a freak. This... doesn't have the slightest thing in common however with any kind of elemental.
InkBlot 07-31-07, 02:15 AM	This is pretty cool. I could see these things drifting around with the half-born ideas of dead geniuses, infecting hosts with the desire to do crazy brilliant things (like building infinite loops with teleport circles or inventing a new kind of candy that doesn't melt in your pocket). Detect Thoughts (Ps): An inspirator may use Detect Thoughts as the spell at will, though is not negatively affected by creatures with high intelligence scores. An inspirator's host may draw upon knowledge of the results at will. Are you sure you wouldn't rather base this psi-like ability off of the psionic power read thoughts instead?
The Vorpal Tribble 07-31-07, 10:18 AM	Are you sure you wouldn't rather base this psi-like ability off of the psionic power read thoughts instead? Well, except with Read Thoughts you can't determine an Intelligence score. This thing tends to be attracted to the brainy.
InkBlot 07-31-07, 12:51 PM	OK, I see. Read thoughts can only distinguish between no intelligence (0), animal intelligence (1-2), sentience (3 or more), and overwhelming intelligence (26 or more). I suppose I would have said "An inspirator may use read thoughts as the power at will, though is not negatively affected by creatures with high intelligence scores. An inspirator's host may draw upon knowledge of the results at will. An inspirator can use this ability to determine the Intelligence score of any creature which fails to save against this ability." But your way works fine.