Dimension Twister Drop? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Dimension Twister Drop? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Lord of the Uttercold
04-15-08, 09:44 AM When using Dimension Twister from Complete Psionic, can I teleport my target somewhere above to give them a bit more damage via falling?
IceFractal
04-16-08, 01:34 AM Sure. In fact, if you've got an ally with a reach weapon, you can drop the victim next to them so they get an AoO.
Moosh Nailo
04-18-08, 01:36 AM What Ice said. Anywhere within range (and not otherwise occupied?) is valid.
I have the greatest mental picture with this power... teleporting them off a cliff.
AntiDjinn
04-18-08, 03:15 AM It says you pick the direction, and failing to state otherwise, there is no reason that direction can't be straight up, or over that pit of lava.

The one word that might trip you up is "orientation" which appears twice in the text. Not surprising for a CPsi power, it doubly emphasizes a word without an official game definition. If by "orientation" they mean "facing, relative to the compass" (most common navigational means of orientation) then if the subject was facing due southwest, it arrives facing due southwest at its new location. Another reading of "orientation" can be "facing, relative to objects". So if your subject was facing the capstone of a pyramid, and you port him to the other side, he will arrive turned around so he is still facing the pyramid. If you port him above it, he will be turned face-down so he is still facing it. If your DM interprets "orientation" as relative to the ground, then a subject who is touching the ground will arrive touching the ground. If orientation is relative to gravity, then you can move him anywhere in range and he will simply arrive with his feet pointing down if they were before. If he is ported relative to the center of the gravity well, then his altitude can't be changed (since that would be a different orientation relative to center of mass). If your DM maintains that the subject must keep the same orientation relative to the universal frame of reference, then he won't go anywhere, though the movement of the planet might pulverize him. See, it is pretty simple when the source is so precise in its language.

btw: What I would use: Orientation relative to you. If he was facing away from you, he arrives facing away from you. You are the source of his dimensional misfortune, and the range is calculated from your position, not the subject's, so you are the center and origin of the effect and serve as the point of reference for the subject.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lord of the Uttercold 04-15-08, 09:44 AM	When using Dimension Twister from Complete Psionic, can I teleport my target somewhere above to give them a bit more damage via falling?
IceFractal 04-16-08, 01:34 AM	Sure. In fact, if you've got an ally with a reach weapon, you can drop the victim next to them so they get an AoO.
Moosh Nailo 04-18-08, 01:36 AM	What Ice said. Anywhere within range (and not otherwise occupied?) is valid. I have the greatest mental picture with this power... teleporting them off a cliff.
AntiDjinn 04-18-08, 03:15 AM	It says you pick the direction, and failing to state otherwise, there is no reason that direction can't be straight up, or over that pit of lava. The one word that might trip you up is "orientation" which appears twice in the text. Not surprising for a CPsi power, it doubly emphasizes a word without an official game definition. If by "orientation" they mean "facing, relative to the compass" (most common navigational means of orientation) then if the subject was facing due southwest, it arrives facing due southwest at its new location. Another reading of "orientation" can be "facing, relative to objects". So if your subject was facing the capstone of a pyramid, and you port him to the other side, he will arrive turned around so he is still facing the pyramid. If you port him above it, he will be turned face-down so he is still facing it. If your DM interprets "orientation" as relative to the ground, then a subject who is touching the ground will arrive touching the ground. If orientation is relative to gravity, then you can move him anywhere in range and he will simply arrive with his feet pointing down if they were before. If he is ported relative to the center of the gravity well, then his altitude can't be changed (since that would be a different orientation relative to center of mass). If your DM maintains that the subject must keep the same orientation relative to the universal frame of reference, then he won't go anywhere, though the movement of the planet might pulverize him. See, it is pretty simple when the source is so precise in its language. btw: What I would use: Orientation relative to you. If he was facing away from you, he arrives facing away from you. You are the source of his dimensional misfortune, and the range is calculated from your position, not the subject's, so you are the center and origin of the effect and serve as the point of reference for the subject.