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Discipline Powers [Archive] - Wizards Community

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GeminiDreams
05-08-07, 08:50 PM I don't know where I saw it, but somewhere it said you need to be epic level or have researched the 9th level powers of disciplines.
I believe that they were only referring to disciples that you aren't in, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.
So again, the question is:
As a Psion (Shaper), do you need to be epic level or research a power to get True Creation or Genesis? Or do you just need to be able to cast level 9 powers.

Edit:
Just to get another question out.
You can only use a max. of one Torc of Power Preservation, right?
Tempest Stormwind
05-08-07, 08:55 PM 1) We were referring to those outside of your discipline. Think about that for a second -- there's no reason whatsoever why a shaper couldn't learn Genesis normally, but there's every reason mechanically why she couldn't learn Greater Metamorphosis.
2) You can only have one amulet at a time and the torc takes up the amulet slot.
Rageheart
05-10-07, 02:16 PM Torc of Power Preservation

This item is a band inlaid with precious metal, worn around the neck or upper arm. The wearer of a torc of power preservation manifests all powers by paying power points equal to the standard cost minus 1 (minimum of 1).

A torc is treated as an amulet for the purpose of determining which items can be worn on the body.

Strong clairsentience; ML 15th; Craft Universal Item, bend reality; Price 36,000 gp; Weight 2 lb.

I believe this (BLUE) to be the source of confusion...

After all if I could wear it on either upper arm or around my throat isn't that 3 slots? (Ignoring GREEN)
Racinante
05-10-07, 02:49 PM I believe this (BLUE) to be the source of confusion...

After all if I could wear it on either upper arm or around my throat isn't that 3 slots? (Ignoring GREEN)

No, regardless of where you wear it, it takes up the one and only amulet slot.

You can wear 8-20+ rings (fingers, toes, ears, nose, navel, etc.), but only two of them will function (unless they are designed as slotless items). Those two rings that take up the two ring slots.
Rageheart
05-10-07, 03:00 PM I understand that...
I was merely trying to show how some may have gotten the wrong idea.
Racinante
05-10-07, 03:02 PM I understand that...
I was merely trying to show how some may have gotten the wrong idea.

My apologies. I misunderstood the point of your post.

Cheers
Venenum
05-10-07, 03:59 PM Well i would make them slotless, 2x the cost, but you could make them imbedded gems, thus unremovable, so you get captured to can manifest free powers.

If your DM lets them stack.
Bernat
05-11-07, 12:12 PM As a Psion (Shaper), do you need to be epic level or research a power to get True Creation or Genesis? Or do you just need to be able to cast level 9 powers.I know of two ways for learning a power belonging to a discipline other than your own:
1.- Psychic Chirurgery (http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/psionicPowersGtoP.html#psychic-chirurgery)
2.- Epic Expanded Knowledge (http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/epicFeats.html#epic-expanded-knowledge)

Where's the power research mechanics?
carnivore
05-11-07, 12:31 PM in the SRD or XPH

here:

http://boards1.wizards.com/leaving.php?destination=http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm

:D
Racinante
05-11-07, 01:26 PM Specifically:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm#independentRes earch

or on the site you referenced at http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/psionic.html and search for Independent Research

or finally
http://racinante.com/srd/doc/SRD/PowersOverview.html#Psionics_Psionic_Pow ers_Overview_Powers_and_Power_Points_Add ing_Powers_Independent_Research
Bernat
05-11-07, 01:30 PM Specifically:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm#independentRes earch

or on the site you referenced at http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/psionic.html and search for Independent Research

or finally
http://racinante.com/srd/doc/SRD/PowersOverview.html#Psionics_Psionic_Pow ers_Overview_Powers_and_Power_Points_Add ing_Powers_Independent_Research

Hehe, thanks for the links :).
InkBlot
05-11-07, 02:19 PM In the Expanded Psionics Handbook the rules for researching new powers are on page 64. It's under the heading ADDING POWERS, and the subheading Independent Research.

Also on that page are the very useful and much overlooked rules for manifesting a power from someone else's repertoire via direct mental contact.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GeminiDreams 05-08-07, 08:50 PM	I don't know where I saw it, but somewhere it said you need to be epic level or have researched the 9th level powers of disciplines. I believe that they were only referring to disciples that you aren't in, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something. So again, the question is: As a Psion (Shaper), do you need to be epic level or research a power to get True Creation or Genesis? Or do you just need to be able to cast level 9 powers. Edit: Just to get another question out. You can only use a max. of one Torc of Power Preservation, right?
Tempest Stormwind 05-08-07, 08:55 PM	1) We were referring to those outside of your discipline. Think about that for a second -- there's no reason whatsoever why a shaper couldn't learn Genesis normally, but there's every reason mechanically why she couldn't learn Greater Metamorphosis. 2) You can only have one amulet at a time and the torc takes up the amulet slot.
Rageheart 05-10-07, 02:16 PM	Torc of Power Preservation This item is a band inlaid with precious metal, worn around the neck or upper arm. The wearer of a torc of power preservation manifests all powers by paying power points equal to the standard cost minus 1 (minimum of 1). A torc is treated as an amulet for the purpose of determining which items can be worn on the body. Strong clairsentience; ML 15th; Craft Universal Item, bend reality; Price 36,000 gp; Weight 2 lb. I believe this (BLUE) to be the source of confusion... After all if I could wear it on either upper arm or around my throat isn't that 3 slots? (Ignoring GREEN)
Racinante 05-10-07, 02:49 PM	I believe this (BLUE) to be the source of confusion... After all if I could wear it on either upper arm or around my throat isn't that 3 slots? (Ignoring GREEN) No, regardless of where you wear it, it takes up the one and only amulet slot. You can wear 8-20+ rings (fingers, toes, ears, nose, navel, etc.), but only two of them will function (unless they are designed as slotless items). Those two rings that take up the two ring slots.
Rageheart 05-10-07, 03:00 PM	I understand that... I was merely trying to show how some may have gotten the wrong idea.
Racinante 05-10-07, 03:02 PM	I understand that... I was merely trying to show how some may have gotten the wrong idea. My apologies. I misunderstood the point of your post. Cheers
Venenum 05-10-07, 03:59 PM	Well i would make them slotless, 2x the cost, but you could make them imbedded gems, thus unremovable, so you get captured to can manifest free powers. If your DM lets them stack.
Bernat 05-11-07, 12:12 PM	As a Psion (Shaper), do you need to be epic level or research a power to get True Creation or Genesis? Or do you just need to be able to cast level 9 powers.I know of two ways for learning a power belonging to a discipline other than your own: 1.- Psychic Chirurgery (http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/psionicPowersGtoP.html#psychic-chirurgery) 2.- Epic Expanded Knowledge (http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/epicFeats.html#epic-expanded-knowledge) Where's the power research mechanics?
carnivore 05-11-07, 12:31 PM	in the SRD or XPH here: http://boards1.wizards.com/leaving.php?destination=http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm :D
Racinante 05-11-07, 01:26 PM	Specifically: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm#independentRes earch or on the site you referenced at http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/psionic.html and search for Independent Research or finally http://racinante.com/srd/doc/SRD/PowersOverview.html#Psionics_Psionic_Pow ers_Overview_Powers_and_Power_Points_Add ing_Powers_Independent_Research
Bernat 05-11-07, 01:30 PM	Specifically: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm#independentRes earch or on the site you referenced at http://www.roles.es/sovelior_sage_srd/psionic.html and search for Independent Research or finally http://racinante.com/srd/doc/SRD/PowersOverview.html#Psionics_Psionic_Pow ers_Overview_Powers_and_Power_Points_Add ing_Powers_Independent_Research Hehe, thanks for the links :).
InkBlot 05-11-07, 02:19 PM	In the Expanded Psionics Handbook the rules for researching new powers are on page 64. It's under the heading ADDING POWERS, and the subheading Independent Research. Also on that page are the very useful and much overlooked rules for manifesting a power from someone else's repertoire via direct mental contact.