Epic Psychic Fist/Fist of Zuoken? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Epic Psychic Fist/Fist of Zuoken? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Mooncalf
11-18-07, 04:05 PM Is there an epic progression for the aforementioned PrC anywhere?
kelvinaw273
11-19-07, 09:13 AM I haven't seen one but that does not mean there isn't one - in fact the old ELH stated that any ten-level PrC could be expanded to 20 levels in Epic. You would have to work out the formula for the power point progression, and probably gain less new power levels after the 10th level (max of 5th level powers up to 14th level, 6th level powers available at 15th and above), but otherwise it should work out OK. Gain an extra feat every five levels too ...
awaken_D_M_golem
11-21-07, 03:10 PM Visit d20srd.org

They have the progression for Epic Psions and Epic Monks.
Fist of Zuoken doesn't advance all of the Monks abilities,
and advancing FoZ manifesting isn't quite 1/2 of what a Psion gets.
Stick them in a mixing bowl, and bake for an hour ...
{ ... insert waiting / tapping foot smiley face ... }

Give it 4+ skills, d8
One power per level, instead of the Psion's 2.
+1 manifester level per level.
+1 monk level for the monk-ish stuff FoZ gives.
One bonus feat per 3 levels.

Your DM might be a little perplexed, or might even think it's a little overpowered.
But NO. You don't have access to Epic Spells, and you aren't a full caster.
You're a hybrid class of sorts.
It'll work fine.

*****

Check out "carnivore's" work on Psions and Monks.
It's on the Psion build guide.
Lots more complicated. Lots more craziness.

Have fun.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Mooncalf 11-18-07, 04:05 PM	Is there an epic progression for the aforementioned PrC anywhere?
kelvinaw273 11-19-07, 09:13 AM	I haven't seen one but that does not mean there isn't one - in fact the old ELH stated that any ten-level PrC could be expanded to 20 levels in Epic. You would have to work out the formula for the power point progression, and probably gain less new power levels after the 10th level (max of 5th level powers up to 14th level, 6th level powers available at 15th and above), but otherwise it should work out OK. Gain an extra feat every five levels too ...
awaken_D_M_golem 11-21-07, 03:10 PM	Visit d20srd.org They have the progression for Epic Psions and Epic Monks. Fist of Zuoken doesn't advance all of the Monks abilities, and advancing FoZ manifesting isn't quite 1/2 of what a Psion gets. Stick them in a mixing bowl, and bake for an hour ... { ... insert waiting / tapping foot smiley face ... } Give it 4+ skills, d8 One power per level, instead of the Psion's 2. +1 manifester level per level. +1 monk level for the monk-ish stuff FoZ gives. One bonus feat per 3 levels. Your DM might be a little perplexed, or might even think it's a little overpowered. But NO. You don't have access to Epic Spells, and you aren't a full caster. You're a hybrid class of sorts. It'll work fine. ***** Check out "carnivore's" work on Psions and Monks. It's on the Psion build guide. Lots more complicated. Lots more craziness. Have fun.