Extra Mantle [Archive] - Wizards Community

Extra Mantle [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Mindolin
03-19-08, 03:44 PM Okay, I am thinking of retiring my Barbarian because he's too powerful, and was thinking of replacing him with a Psychic Warrior. I am planning on taking the varient class feature that allows him to take a mantle, and was wondering if there was any feat that allows me to get an extra mantle. I think I remember seeing something in Complete Psionic, but am away from my books right now.
awaken_D_M_golem
03-19-08, 04:13 PM Yes, but ...

Tap and Don Mantle get the mantle list and the mantle granted ability. Just like the Mind's Eye thingy you are talking about.
If you added the "list" feat, you'd have just about all of your PsyWar powers, covered via the mantles.
Hence, you could pick almost all non- PsyWar powers in those slots.
Especially, if your DM sees Substitute Powers in the Ardent section of Mind's Eye.

Careful though, you don't want to try to be a primary caster / powerpoint burner.

Metamorph + Metamorphic Transfer + more synergistic feats than a Psion = BAM !!!

I'd say, find a good build in the PsyWar guide. Rip out one feat for the Class feature.
Ditch any Expanded Knowledge feats (because of), add back in the ditched feat (because of).
Pick some better powers here and there.

Have fun.
CrimsonDeath
03-19-08, 05:31 PM More precisely, Tap Mantle adds a new mantle's worth of powers to your class list, and Don Mantle allows you to use the granted ability of any mantle you've chosen with Tap Mantle.
Metafictional
03-19-08, 08:19 PM If a Divine Mind took Tap Mantle and Don Mantle, would they get a new aura as well?
CrimsonDeath
03-19-08, 10:29 PM If a Divine Mind took Tap Mantle and Don Mantle, would they get a new aura as well?

It doesn't look like it. Although, goodness knows it wouldn't be overpowred to allow it.
Metafictional
03-19-08, 11:58 PM Yeah, agreed on that. The Mantles are even more hit-or-miss than Domains; some Mantles grant decent powers, some have cool granted powers, and some have really sweet Auras for Divine Minds...but rarely all three at once.

While any player could find a combination of Mantles that give their character worthwhile abilities, it's hard to choose Mantles based on a character concept alone, since you could end up with some so so abilities.

So no, it probably wouldn't break anything. Thanks for the reply.
awaken_D_M_golem
03-20-08, 07:22 PM Extra Aura feat.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Mindolin 03-19-08, 03:44 PM	Okay, I am thinking of retiring my Barbarian because he's too powerful, and was thinking of replacing him with a Psychic Warrior. I am planning on taking the varient class feature that allows him to take a mantle, and was wondering if there was any feat that allows me to get an extra mantle. I think I remember seeing something in Complete Psionic, but am away from my books right now.
awaken_D_M_golem 03-19-08, 04:13 PM	Yes, but ... Tap and Don Mantle get the mantle list and the mantle granted ability. Just like the Mind's Eye thingy you are talking about. If you added the "list" feat, you'd have just about all of your PsyWar powers, covered via the mantles. Hence, you could pick almost all non- PsyWar powers in those slots. Especially, if your DM sees Substitute Powers in the Ardent section of Mind's Eye. Careful though, you don't want to try to be a primary caster / powerpoint burner. Metamorph + Metamorphic Transfer + more synergistic feats than a Psion = BAM !!! I'd say, find a good build in the PsyWar guide. Rip out one feat for the Class feature. Ditch any Expanded Knowledge feats (because of), add back in the ditched feat (because of). Pick some better powers here and there. Have fun.
CrimsonDeath 03-19-08, 05:31 PM	More precisely, Tap Mantle adds a new mantle's worth of powers to your class list, and Don Mantle allows you to use the granted ability of any mantle you've chosen with Tap Mantle.
Metafictional 03-19-08, 08:19 PM	If a Divine Mind took Tap Mantle and Don Mantle, would they get a new aura as well?
CrimsonDeath 03-19-08, 10:29 PM	If a Divine Mind took Tap Mantle and Don Mantle, would they get a new aura as well? It doesn't look like it. Although, goodness knows it wouldn't be overpowred to allow it.
Metafictional 03-19-08, 11:58 PM	Yeah, agreed on that. The Mantles are even more hit-or-miss than Domains; some Mantles grant decent powers, some have cool granted powers, and some have really sweet Auras for Divine Minds...but rarely all three at once. While any player could find a combination of Mantles that give their character worthwhile abilities, it's hard to choose Mantles based on a character concept alone, since you could end up with some so so abilities. So no, it probably wouldn't break anything. Thanks for the reply.
awaken_D_M_golem 03-20-08, 07:22 PM	Extra Aura feat.