Flayerspawn Psychic [Archive] - Wizards Community

Flayerspawn Psychic [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Kaiberon
05-28-07, 02:44 AM So, anyone get a Cust Serv answer about this class and the illithid blast feat already? What would be the email address for them if I have to do it myself?
Lycanthromancer
05-28-07, 10:15 AM I'd say it's a lost cause. Customer Service is nigh-useless, and holding your breath for errata is suicide.
kyeudo
05-28-07, 12:12 PM Besides, Flayerspawn Psychic is one of the worst prestige classes ever thought up. Why try to save crap?
Kaiberon
05-28-07, 05:25 PM Because I want that pimp Su mega stun and the brain eating but i don't want 8 HD and a +7 LA.
Lycanthromancer
05-28-07, 05:38 PM That's why you Mind Switch, then Mind Seed.
Karkaras
05-29-07, 03:26 AM Why not go Half-Illithid then?
teshen
05-29-07, 05:37 PM Why not go Half-Illithid then?
Half-illithid is like being half couch...

How did... What the... but furniture doesn't procreate? :confused:
mhacdebhandia
05-29-07, 07:44 PM You're right, because in D&D-land no-one ever magically crossbreeds two different creatures.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG89.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG140.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG153b.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG206.jpg

The very idea is preposterous.

If you don't like that explanation, how about the official one from the Fiend Folio which explains a half-illithid is what you get when an illithid tadpole is implanted in the brain of non-human, which can't be transformed into a normal illithid - like lizardfolk?

I mean, either seems reasonable to me.
Jaid
05-29-07, 08:13 PM If you don't like that explanation, how about the official one from the Fiend Folio which explains a half-illithid is what you get when an illithid tadpole is implanted in the brain of non-human, which can't be transformed into a normal illithid - like lizardfolk?how about that explanation is completely contrary to Lords of Madness? :P

how about it's still a stupid name for the template, since the creature isn't really half-illithid at all?

(i would have been fine if they called it the failed ceremorphosis template or something...)
Tyroki
05-31-07, 02:01 AM You know, I really don't see the problem with Illithid Blast...

The mind blast it refers to is the mind blast ability from the original Monster Manual, rather than the Psionic Power "Mind Blast"

Hence the stunning. Basically, as you increase in power with the Flayerspawn, your Illithid Blast (Mind Blast) Becomes more and more like the original, until it IS the original... Sooo... Whats the problem? >.>
glacialcat
05-31-07, 02:27 AM You know, I really don't see the problem with Illithid Blast...

The mind blast it refers to is the mind blast ability from the original Monster Manual, rather than the Psionic Power "Mind Blast"

Hence the stunning. Basically, as you increase in power with the Flayerspawn, your Illithid Blast (Mind Blast) Becomes more and more like the original, until it IS the original... Sooo... Whats the problem? >.>

Illithid Blast says "As described on page 61, you can channel power points into a mind blast as a standard action."

Problem is, page 61 doesn't describe how you channel power points into the blast. From the wording of both abilities, its obvious you need to spend power points to use it, and expend psionic focus. But it never says how many power points. There's no way to activate the ability.
MushroomSpore
05-31-07, 04:59 PM You're right, because in D&D-land no-one ever magically crossbreeds two different creatures.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG89.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG140.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG153b.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG206.jpg

The very idea is preposterous.

That would be a wonderful series of examples and a complete ice burn if any of those creatures were actually crossbreeds. I'm just sayin'. :P
teshen
05-31-07, 06:48 PM I believe one of the pieces of art in Complete Psionic is of a half illithid human female. Well, I guess the tadpole only ate half her brain and died from indigestion... so instead of being left retarded... she got a mouth tentacles and... overactive neurons with which to headache her enemies into submission? Yes. It makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:

You're right, because in D&D-land no-one ever magically crossbreeds two different creatures. . .
(Despite the sarcasm...) True enough. But I was working off the premise that the illithid biology presented in the book Lords of Madness was the basis, as Jaid pointed out.

I've got no problem with combining aspects of two different things, especially magically in D&D... (I've even let players have things out of Green Ronin's Bastards and Bloodlines even though it makes even less sense... ) but technically, crossbreed is the wrong term.

cross·breed (krôs'brēd', krŏs'-) Pronunciation Key
v. cross·bred (-brěd'), cross·breed·ing, cross·breeds

v. tr.
To produce (an organism) by the mating of individuals of different breeds, varieties, or species; hybridize.

v. intr.
To mate so as to produce a hybrid; interbreed.

n. An organism produced by mating of individuals of different varieties or breeds.

So... Drow, Griffin, Hippogriff, and Owlbear... Maybe if I were familiar with the real world folklore from which they sprang I would agree with you. But as they are, none fit the bill of a magical crossbreed... three of the four are distinct species and the fourth (first actually) is a curse levied by a Godess.

Half Celetials/Dragons/Infernals... even half elves and half orcs are from copulation. However, things like the Winged Template or Tauric(?) creatures (which if you really want to argue might be the progenitors of the magical beasts you mentioned... maybe) would probably be magically created. So would the Warforged and the template that makes constructs more or less organic and alive.

Half Illithids... it would take magic. And I'm betting that it would take something like a non-illithid high level spellcaster... because to an illithid a half-illithid would be like the backwoods Arkansaw branch at the family reunion... a constant source of embarassement.
Tyroki
05-31-07, 07:11 PM Well if there is no way to activate Illithid Blast, why not just ditch the power point thing in general and use it like Eldrich Blast?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kaiberon 05-28-07, 02:44 AM	So, anyone get a Cust Serv answer about this class and the illithid blast feat already? What would be the email address for them if I have to do it myself?
Lycanthromancer 05-28-07, 10:15 AM	I'd say it's a lost cause. Customer Service is nigh-useless, and holding your breath for errata is suicide.
kyeudo 05-28-07, 12:12 PM	Besides, Flayerspawn Psychic is one of the worst prestige classes ever thought up. Why try to save crap?
Kaiberon 05-28-07, 05:25 PM	Because I want that pimp Su mega stun and the brain eating but i don't want 8 HD and a +7 LA.
Lycanthromancer 05-28-07, 05:38 PM	That's why you Mind Switch, then Mind Seed.
Karkaras 05-29-07, 03:26 AM	Why not go Half-Illithid then?
teshen 05-29-07, 05:37 PM	Why not go Half-Illithid then? Half-illithid is like being half couch... How did... What the... but furniture doesn't procreate? :confused:
mhacdebhandia 05-29-07, 07:44 PM	You're right, because in D&D-land no-one ever magically crossbreeds two different creatures. http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG89.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG140.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG153b.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG206.jpg The very idea is preposterous. If you don't like that explanation, how about the official one from the Fiend Folio which explains a half-illithid is what you get when an illithid tadpole is implanted in the brain of non-human, which can't be transformed into a normal illithid - like lizardfolk? I mean, either seems reasonable to me.
Jaid 05-29-07, 08:13 PM	If you don't like that explanation, how about the official one from the Fiend Folio which explains a half-illithid is what you get when an illithid tadpole is implanted in the brain of non-human, which can't be transformed into a normal illithid - like lizardfolk?how about that explanation is completely contrary to Lords of Madness? :P how about it's still a stupid name for the template, since the creature isn't really half-illithid at all? (i would have been fine if they called it the failed ceremorphosis template or something...)
Tyroki 05-31-07, 02:01 AM	You know, I really don't see the problem with Illithid Blast... The mind blast it refers to is the mind blast ability from the original Monster Manual, rather than the Psionic Power "Mind Blast" Hence the stunning. Basically, as you increase in power with the Flayerspawn, your Illithid Blast (Mind Blast) Becomes more and more like the original, until it IS the original... Sooo... Whats the problem? >.>
glacialcat 05-31-07, 02:27 AM	You know, I really don't see the problem with Illithid Blast... The mind blast it refers to is the mind blast ability from the original Monster Manual, rather than the Psionic Power "Mind Blast" Hence the stunning. Basically, as you increase in power with the Flayerspawn, your Illithid Blast (Mind Blast) Becomes more and more like the original, until it IS the original... Sooo... Whats the problem? >.> Illithid Blast says "As described on page 61, you can channel power points into a mind blast as a standard action." Problem is, page 61 doesn't describe how you channel power points into the blast. From the wording of both abilities, its obvious you need to spend power points to use it, and expend psionic focus. But it never says how many power points. There's no way to activate the ability.
MushroomSpore 05-31-07, 04:59 PM	You're right, because in D&D-land no-one ever magically crossbreeds two different creatures. http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG89.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG140.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG153b.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG206.jpg The very idea is preposterous. That would be a wonderful series of examples and a complete ice burn if any of those creatures were actually crossbreeds. I'm just sayin'. :P
teshen 05-31-07, 06:48 PM	I believe one of the pieces of art in Complete Psionic is of a half illithid human female. Well, I guess the tadpole only ate half her brain and died from indigestion... so instead of being left retarded... she got a mouth tentacles and... overactive neurons with which to headache her enemies into submission? Yes. It makes perfect sense. :rolleyes: You're right, because in D&D-land no-one ever magically crossbreeds two different creatures. . . (Despite the sarcasm...) True enough. But I was working off the premise that the illithid biology presented in the book Lords of Madness was the basis, as Jaid pointed out. I've got no problem with combining aspects of two different things, especially magically in D&D... (I've even let players have things out of Green Ronin's Bastards and Bloodlines even though it makes even less sense... ) but technically, crossbreed is the wrong term. cross·breed (krôs'brēd', krŏs'-) Pronunciation Key v. cross·bred (-brěd'), cross·breed·ing, cross·breeds v. tr. To produce (an organism) by the mating of individuals of different breeds, varieties, or species; hybridize. v. intr. To mate so as to produce a hybrid; interbreed. n. An organism produced by mating of individuals of different varieties or breeds. So... Drow, Griffin, Hippogriff, and Owlbear... Maybe if I were familiar with the real world folklore from which they sprang I would agree with you. But as they are, none fit the bill of a magical crossbreed... three of the four are distinct species and the fourth (first actually) is a curse levied by a Godess. Half Celetials/Dragons/Infernals... even half elves and half orcs are from copulation. However, things like the Winged Template or Tauric(?) creatures (which if you really want to argue might be the progenitors of the magical beasts you mentioned... maybe) would probably be magically created. So would the Warforged and the template that makes constructs more or less organic and alive. Half Illithids... it would take magic. And I'm betting that it would take something like a non-illithid high level spellcaster... because to an illithid a half-illithid would be like the backwoods Arkansaw branch at the family reunion... a constant source of embarassement.
Tyroki 05-31-07, 07:11 PM	Well if there is no way to activate Illithid Blast, why not just ditch the power point thing in general and use it like Eldrich Blast?