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SombreNote 07-10-07, 01:09 PM	Can a psy warrior use force screen while fighting two handed, or does he need a free hand to move the shield around? If he had a shield in his off hand, would it stack with the spell?
Salla 07-10-07, 01:10 PM	The disk 'hovers', therefore it is not held and does not occupy a hand. Both Force Screen and a physical shield provide a Shield bonus to AC, and thus do not stack.
SombreNote 07-10-07, 01:16 PM	Sucks. I have a party with a duskblade and a psywar. The psy warrior is out striping her on just about everything. I was hoping his 21 AC at level 4 when buffed was a mistake or something.
Salla 07-10-07, 01:21 PM	Sucks. I have a party with a duskblade and a psywar. The psy warrior is out striping her on just about everything. I was hoping his 21 AC at level 4 when buffed was a mistake or something. A 21 AC at level 4 isn't that impressive. :) Full Plate (+8) and Force Screen (+4) make 22 by itself, then add in perhaps a point of Dex bonus (+1), and slap a +1 on the armor (easily within the PC's wealth expectancy), and bingo. :)
Bacris 07-10-07, 01:28 PM	Well, the duskblade is pretty much ONLY about damage output, so the psywar should be better at just about everything else anyway :p
SombreNote 07-10-07, 01:47 PM	Yeah I know about that damage output thing. At 4th level it really is not showing yet comparatively. I hope her damage goes up some how. I have been looking at her spell lists and I am not too impressed. She has gone the last 6 combats, and it is really not her fault. She ends up getting agro, and gets pwned. hehe
SlanderPanic 07-10-07, 01:53 PM	21 sounds about right, assuming your psychic warrior has a decent Dex and equipment. 10 + 2 (Dex) + 5 (breastplate) + 4 (force screen) = 21 If he had heavier armor or a better Dex, or if he had a ring of protection and/or amulet of natural armor, it could be higher. Just remember two things: One, Dodge is always worth spending a feat slot on. Two, it's not a competition. D&D is about working together. Maybe the psychic warrior should try taunting the enemy into attacking him (Intimidate skill) while the duskblade moves into a flanking position. They could form a wall of badassitude to protect the rest of the party.
SombreNote 07-10-07, 02:04 PM	He uses Inertial Armor, with the shield. He also has 20 dex. So yeah, it gets up there. Two, it's not a competition. D&D is about working together. Maybe the psychic warrior should try taunting the enemy into attacking him (Intimidate skill) while the duskblade moves into a flanking position. They could form a wall of badassitude to protect the rest of the party. Saying D&D is about working together is not necessary. They work together just fine, it is when she goes down all the time that is problem. Taunting is a good idea though, but I just want to make sure it is not stupid. In my world, intimidate works more realistically then standard D&D, whish makes it less effective.
Scion of Coldshard 07-10-07, 02:09 PM	Dex 20? The duskblade should be doing at least twice as much damage per hit as the psychic warrior! Plus, having to spend a combat round to put up the force screen power should shift that disparity in damage even further towards the duskblade..
SombreNote 07-10-07, 02:14 PM	He is a Gith. If she goes in before him and starts ******* the thing off, she always goes down for some reason. They are usually smart enough to get buffs off before combat. And he wields two ands, and must be rolling really well the time, because he does more damage then her, and stays up longer to do even more.
Scion of Coldshard 07-10-07, 02:26 PM	So the psychic warrior is a gith(yanki?) with 20 dex, a two handed weapon, often gets time to buff before combat, and is sporting a +2 LA in all likelyhood. What does the duskblade have going for it? A different LA race? 2 levels ahead of the psychic warrior? Does he use the buff round? One handed weapon with a shield?
SombreNote 07-10-07, 02:47 PM	She is a Highlander. hahhahahahaaha Templete Here: http://static.scribd.com/docs/i30bg58jpm8ep.swf I know what you might think about the Githyanki, but he has never used any of his racial abilities. The only thing that might have kept him up was his plus 1 to AC do to Dex, but he has never come down to 4 hit points in order to stay up do to having the +2 Con for being a Gith. He has never been below 20 hp come to think of it. He just recasts vigor once.
Scion of Coldshard 07-10-07, 03:11 PM	So the psychic warrior manifests force screen and vigor before each battle? Assuming that he is using force screen for 1 pp and vigor for 4 pp then you must only have 1 or 2 battles a day. If the psychic warrior is doing more damage with a two handed weapon than the duskblade and has a 20 dex and has a 14+ wisdom and isnt using any powers to buff his damage and who knows what else... I dont know, something pretty odd is going on. Is the duskblade sleeping through fights? Edit: You said 'at level 4' earlier, is that level 4 before or after the LA?
SombreNote 07-10-07, 03:53 PM	4th Level before level adjustment. Yes. Is the duskblade sleeping through fights? Why yes. Yes she is. She is down for the count. hehe I guess the problem is i don't do normal 4 fights a day thing. The life of the PCs are dominated by roleplaying, and realism to my taste is usually more like 1 or 2 fights (or however overzealous they want to be). They were just in a cave fighting. They had I think 4 fights, but she was down every fight. Cool thing about her, is she can recoup quickly. O, and she usually runs out of spells after 1 encounter, about 6 rounds.
Scion of Coldshard 07-10-07, 04:03 PM	A level 6 duskblade is 3 BAB up from a githyanki psychic warrior 2, at least 6 first level spells and at least 3 second level spells.. There are other differences as well.. but I just dont see how what you are saying is happening unless the dice are simply favoring one character over another. 1 fight or a dozen it shouldnt matter statistically.
SombreNote 07-10-07, 04:16 PM	I agree totally scion. I figured as much, i just needed your guys moral support. haha The dice have been really bad to her, it is true. And the Gith is thinking he is pretty over powered right now. I keep saying i do not think he is, but he is worried he is going to out balance the game. I know i would be HiJacking my own topic here but; What are some of the best feat/feat combos for a duskblade to optimize her power?
Mr_Platypus 07-10-07, 08:54 PM	Can a psy warrior use force screen while fighting two handed, or does he need a free hand to move the shield around? If he had a shield in his off hand, would it stack with the spell? I have a corrollary question about this. Does Force Screen protect against Magic Missiles, like the shield spell does?
InkBlot 07-10-07, 09:00 PM	No, it doesn't. Protecting against magic missles is a special property of the shield spell (and likely a legacy from previous editions).
SlanderPanic 07-10-07, 11:18 PM	Pet peeve: People who say "gith" when referring to githyanki and githzerai. They're two different races, folks. Gith was a specific person (and a primitive race in Dark Sun.)
InkBlot 07-11-07, 01:03 AM	What if they use an apostrophe or a period after the "gith" to indicate that it's an abbreviation? Like "I realy like the psionic flavor around the gith' races." Or "I was thinking of playing a githyanki, but would the level adjustment be too much for a gith. psywar?"
Lycanthromancer 07-11-07, 01:14 AM	I'd imagine it would be okay if it was clear what they were referring to (like your second example).