Full Manifester PrC? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Full Manifester PrC? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Explosive_Zombie
05-24-07, 02:34 AM Besides the Anarchic Initiate, are there any ful manifester prestige classes out there? Or any fixes to the older ones than allow for a full manifester (Psion Uncarnate maybe :drool: )?
pud
05-24-07, 02:35 AM Nope. You can get one level of Elocator but you have to take Mobility and Spring Attack I believe.
Friendlyfish
05-24-07, 02:38 AM 'Fraid not. By the time that XPH came out, WOTC had wised up to allowing full-casting PrCs, even for magic-users. They're pretty rare now in new supplements (since to not take one is silly.) Just one more way in that psions are weaker than other types of casters.
Cala, Legend Reborn
05-24-07, 04:04 AM Hyperconscious has a full-manifesting variant of the Metamind, which makes it actually playable.
Bacris
05-24-07, 08:35 AM Hyper's metamind loses 3 MLs instead of 5, but it still loses them... although it's front-loaded, so you can take 5 levels without losing a single ML.

It also has the ghostbreaker, 5 level, full progression PrC.

That's pretty much it for psionic PrCs unless you count some of the weird ones like the subverted psion from the Mind's Eye.
Cala, Legend Reborn
05-24-07, 05:19 PM Whoops, memory like a sieve sometimes... >.<
Salla
05-24-07, 05:23 PM Whoops, memory like a sieve sometimes... >.<

That's because I manifested Memory Sieve on you. :)
Ogg
05-24-07, 05:28 PM Only partial fix is take Practiced Manifester feat then you at least get Manifester levels for those in between levels just not additional powers & PP's.
CrimsonDeath
05-24-07, 05:48 PM There's the Subverted Psion (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20051125a). And it's 13 levels of full manifesting. You go crazy, though.
Cala, Legend Reborn
05-25-07, 06:05 AM That's because I manifested Memory Sieve on you. :)
You must've suppressed your displays! Dastardly! XD
metatheurgist
05-25-07, 07:20 AM Cerebremancer? You only lose one for Illithid Slayer (and for what you get in return that's more than a good trade).
Bacris
05-25-07, 07:23 AM Cerebremancer?

You lose 3 MLs from Cerebremancer by having to take levels in a spellcasting class.
CrimsonDeath
05-25-07, 03:01 PM One if you use an early qualification trick.
Bacris
05-25-07, 03:35 PM Debatable on if it's a legal trick ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Explosive_Zombie 05-24-07, 02:34 AM	Besides the Anarchic Initiate, are there any ful manifester prestige classes out there? Or any fixes to the older ones than allow for a full manifester (Psion Uncarnate maybe :drool: )?
pud 05-24-07, 02:35 AM	Nope. You can get one level of Elocator but you have to take Mobility and Spring Attack I believe.
Friendlyfish 05-24-07, 02:38 AM	'Fraid not. By the time that XPH came out, WOTC had wised up to allowing full-casting PrCs, even for magic-users. They're pretty rare now in new supplements (since to not take one is silly.) Just one more way in that psions are weaker than other types of casters.
Cala, Legend Reborn 05-24-07, 04:04 AM	Hyperconscious has a full-manifesting variant of the Metamind, which makes it actually playable.
Bacris 05-24-07, 08:35 AM	Hyper's metamind loses 3 MLs instead of 5, but it still loses them... although it's front-loaded, so you can take 5 levels without losing a single ML. It also has the ghostbreaker, 5 level, full progression PrC. That's pretty much it for psionic PrCs unless you count some of the weird ones like the subverted psion from the Mind's Eye.
Cala, Legend Reborn 05-24-07, 05:19 PM	Whoops, memory like a sieve sometimes... >.<
Salla 05-24-07, 05:23 PM	Whoops, memory like a sieve sometimes... >.< That's because I manifested Memory Sieve on you. :)
Ogg 05-24-07, 05:28 PM	Only partial fix is take Practiced Manifester feat then you at least get Manifester levels for those in between levels just not additional powers & PP's.
CrimsonDeath 05-24-07, 05:48 PM	There's the Subverted Psion (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20051125a). And it's 13 levels of full manifesting. You go crazy, though.
Cala, Legend Reborn 05-25-07, 06:05 AM	That's because I manifested Memory Sieve on you. :) You must've suppressed your displays! Dastardly! XD
metatheurgist 05-25-07, 07:20 AM	Cerebremancer? You only lose one for Illithid Slayer (and for what you get in return that's more than a good trade).
Bacris 05-25-07, 07:23 AM	Cerebremancer? You lose 3 MLs from Cerebremancer by having to take levels in a spellcasting class.
CrimsonDeath 05-25-07, 03:01 PM	One if you use an early qualification trick.
Bacris 05-25-07, 03:35 PM	Debatable on if it's a legal trick ;)