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Odd question [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Thomar_of_Uointer
04-07-07, 01:49 AM What happens if you manifest temporal acceleration while using a tower shield in an antipsionic field?
calronmoonflower
04-07-07, 02:21 AM If you use the shield to gain full cover from the effect.

It works because Null Psionics Field is an emanation instead of a spread.
Grimmsfeld
04-07-07, 02:45 AM If you use the shield to gain full cover from the effect.That's a perfectly coherent answer to the question that was asked...

I'd rule that if you moved out of the area of the NPF while accelerated, the spaces where the effect was blocked would still be what I'm going to call "active psionic zones," in that psionic effects would still function in those spaces for the duration of the temporal acceleration. As soon as your acceleration effect ends, the effects of the NPF would resume.

Again, keep in mind I said...I'd rule......so I'm not really basing this off any mechanical know how, just the information I gleened from reading the other thread.
AntiDjinn
04-07-07, 02:52 AM It should work so long as you are careful to keep the shield oriented so that it provides full cover relative to the origin of the emanation. The only issue you might have (really depends on the DM) is that the shield itself is subject to the NPF. It provides cover but does not receive full cover. So the shield may be ruled as affected by NPF and thus not able to be accelerated with you. You can can pick up and move unattended objects while accelerated (and they move with you in your frame of temporal reference) but if such objects are subject to something that blocks temporal acceleration then maybe you can't.

If this is the case, then you could actually let go of the shield and have both arms free when working behind it. It won't fall over because it is stuck in the temporal frame of the NPF; you can complete all your accelerated actions before its time starts running again then just grab it before it falls.
InkBlot
04-07-07, 03:57 PM A "wall no higher than half you height" gives cover to creatures 30 feet behind it (PHB p151). So after you accelerate yourself there would be a narrow 30-foot-long area, behind the tower shield, in which you could move. Since a NPF is only 20 feet wide, you could just walk away.
Thomar_of_Uointer
04-07-07, 04:17 PM A "wall no higher than half you height" gives cover to creatures 30 feet behind it (PHB p151). So after you accelerate yourself there would be a narrow 30-foot-long area, behind the tower shield, in which you could move. Since a NPF is only 20 feet wide, you could just walk away.

No, emanations go around corners, the only reason this works in the first place is that tower shields are directionless.
calronmoonflower
04-07-07, 04:42 PM No, emanations go around corners, the only reason this works in the first place is that tower shields are directionless.

A spread goes around corners.

Bursts (and therefor emanations) are blocked by total cover.

This is covered on page 175 of the Player's Handbook.
AntiDjinn
04-07-07, 06:12 PM A "wall no higher than half you height" gives cover to creatures 30 feet behind it (PHB p151). So after you accelerate yourself there would be a narrow 30-foot-long area, behind the tower shield, in which you could move. Since a NPF is only 20 feet wide, you could just walk away.
Yes, you could just walk out of the area, but I believe the idea was to be able to do something to the guy who is generating the field. If the shield is providing you with cover relative to his position, then it is in the way when you are trying to shoot at him. If you move to a postion where you have line of sight/effect around the shield, then you are subject to the NPF. Not that temporal acceleration help you to attack him directly anyway; I would use the time to heal and add some buffs, or TK a large weight over his head to drop when the TA expires.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-07-07, 01:49 AM	What happens if you manifest temporal acceleration while using a tower shield in an antipsionic field?
calronmoonflower 04-07-07, 02:21 AM	If you use the shield to gain full cover from the effect. It works because Null Psionics Field is an emanation instead of a spread.
Grimmsfeld 04-07-07, 02:45 AM	If you use the shield to gain full cover from the effect.That's a perfectly coherent answer to the question that was asked... I'd rule that if you moved out of the area of the NPF while accelerated, the spaces where the effect was blocked would still be what I'm going to call "active psionic zones," in that psionic effects would still function in those spaces for the duration of the temporal acceleration. As soon as your acceleration effect ends, the effects of the NPF would resume. Again, keep in mind I said...I'd rule......so I'm not really basing this off any mechanical know how, just the information I gleened from reading the other thread.
AntiDjinn 04-07-07, 02:52 AM	It should work so long as you are careful to keep the shield oriented so that it provides full cover relative to the origin of the emanation. The only issue you might have (really depends on the DM) is that the shield itself is subject to the NPF. It provides cover but does not receive full cover. So the shield may be ruled as affected by NPF and thus not able to be accelerated with you. You can can pick up and move unattended objects while accelerated (and they move with you in your frame of temporal reference) but if such objects are subject to something that blocks temporal acceleration then maybe you can't. If this is the case, then you could actually let go of the shield and have both arms free when working behind it. It won't fall over because it is stuck in the temporal frame of the NPF; you can complete all your accelerated actions before its time starts running again then just grab it before it falls.
InkBlot 04-07-07, 03:57 PM	A "wall no higher than half you height" gives cover to creatures 30 feet behind it (PHB p151). So after you accelerate yourself there would be a narrow 30-foot-long area, behind the tower shield, in which you could move. Since a NPF is only 20 feet wide, you could just walk away.
Thomar_of_Uointer 04-07-07, 04:17 PM	A "wall no higher than half you height" gives cover to creatures 30 feet behind it (PHB p151). So after you accelerate yourself there would be a narrow 30-foot-long area, behind the tower shield, in which you could move. Since a NPF is only 20 feet wide, you could just walk away. No, emanations go around corners, the only reason this works in the first place is that tower shields are directionless.
calronmoonflower 04-07-07, 04:42 PM	No, emanations go around corners, the only reason this works in the first place is that tower shields are directionless. A spread goes around corners. Bursts (and therefor emanations) are blocked by total cover. This is covered on page 175 of the Player's Handbook.
AntiDjinn 04-07-07, 06:12 PM	A "wall no higher than half you height" gives cover to creatures 30 feet behind it (PHB p151). So after you accelerate yourself there would be a narrow 30-foot-long area, behind the tower shield, in which you could move. Since a NPF is only 20 feet wide, you could just walk away. Yes, you could just walk out of the area, but I believe the idea was to be able to do something to the guy who is generating the field. If the shield is providing you with cover relative to his position, then it is in the way when you are trying to shoot at him. If you move to a postion where you have line of sight/effect around the shield, then you are subject to the NPF. Not that temporal acceleration help you to attack him directly anyway; I would use the time to heal and add some buffs, or TK a large weight over his head to drop when the TA expires.