Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Will_Stutler 04-21-07, 04:03 PM	Over Powered Or Not!?!?! i think i might have a way to stop all of the arguing about this subject......it might have been addressed it might not have also keep in mind that this is only a sugestion and my opionion im just trying to help here it goes.............to stop the over powering of magic (which i do not think it is) ether have a all Psi Campagin or have a world were Psi's do not exsist in the world where there no Spell Casters have this world just starting to learn magic to the dagree of making magical items such ass +5 dagger of fire or such please be nice guys i am only trying to help.....i for one love Psionics and i have never been able to fully understand magic but Psi's i understand completely i also do think that psi's are over poewerd "to a point" but not as much as most think i just wanted to give my thoughts on it i know i'll get yelled at for something that i have stated in this post...........again everyone all i want to do is help
Jaid 04-21-07, 04:31 PM	you can't stop the arguing. there's too many dumb, uninformed, ignorant, unreasoning, logic-impaired people for that to ever happen. if the psionics rules were identical to the magic rules in every way, shape, and form, there would still be people arguing that psionics is overpowered. incidentally, you can make psionic +5 daggers, and psionics is not really particularly overpowered at any point that i've noticed, unless you use the exploits that should not exist and which no sane DM allows to actually work.
Tempest Stormwind 04-21-07, 04:43 PM	Will, the way you write fills me with rage akin to the burning fires of a thousand suns, each of which is made out of other, lesser suns. That burn. With flames. The flames are also on fire.here it goes.............to stop the over powering of magic (which i do not think it is) ether have a all Psi Campagin or have a world were Psi's do not exsistSo, to stop magic from being overpowered, or to stop psi from seeming that way, ban magic? That doesn't really solve the problem; it just removes a basis for comparison.in the world where there no Spell Casters have this world just starting to learn magic to the dagree of making magical items such ass +5 dagger of fire or such You can already do this under psionics-magic transparency even without magic.i also do think that psi's are over poewerd "to a point" but not as much as most thinkPlease elaborate. In proper English. In addition to Jaid's post, I should mention that the "no sane DM would allow" argument comes up more often against magic exploits than psionics ones because there are more magic exploits, and they are of greater magnitude than psionics ones.
ElecTech 04-21-07, 06:00 PM	Over Powered Or Not!?!?! i think i might have a way to stop all of the arguing about this subject......it might have been addressed it might not have also keep in mind that this is only a sugestion and my opionion im just trying to help here it goes.............to stop the over powering of magic (which i do not think it is) ether have a all Psi Campagin or have a world were Psi's do not exsist in the world where there no Spell Casters have this world just starting to learn magic to the dagree of making magical items such ass +5 dagger of fire or such please be nice guys i am only trying to help.....i for one love Psionics and i have never been able to fully understand magic but Psi's i understand completely i also do think that psi's are over poewerd "to a point" but not as much as most think i just wanted to give my thoughts on it i know i'll get yelled at for something that i have stated in this post...........again everyone all i want to do is help THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SPELLCASTERS AND PSIONICS...... for every 5 options available to psionics there are 50-100 for spell casters.... simply put spellcasters have more options with which they can work within. The systems are not the problem the problem..... The problem is the inherit fault within melee types and casting types..... and the fact that one system has well over a 1000 options and psionics has very very few......
Nifft 04-21-07, 06:50 PM	I'm gonna go with "not". Cheers, -- N
Will_Stutler 04-22-07, 01:53 AM	i agree that it isn't over powered i just wanted to help im sorry that i made anyone mad
adgramaine 04-22-07, 02:16 AM	The argument will ever be around. But, your suggestion to simply "dump" the system you don't like is the intent behind the whole d20 multiverse. Use what you like, ignore the rest. It's the reason I prefer d20 - it's very modular. Granted, there are too many books, feats, races, classes, PrC's, etc al. But that just lends to a system that has people playing doing exactly what the intent was all along. IMOHO, of course :D
Will_Stutler 04-23-07, 01:26 AM	The argument will ever be around. But, your suggestion to simply "dump" the system you don't like is the intent behind the whole d20 multiverse. Use what you like, ignore the rest. It's the reason I prefer d20 - it's very modular. Granted, there are too many books, feats, races, classes, PrC's, etc al. But that just lends to a system that has people playing doing exactly what the intent was all along. IMOHO, of course :D hey man i just want to help i am not trying to say one is better then the other.....im just giving an opption we have all seen,or been involved with a long argument or even hurd about one that takes away the fun in the game.....i only want to help not start anything...please take it as some one wanting things to go better because thats what it is