Pseudonatural Astral Constructs? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DM_Dracophile

06-27-07, 04:20 PM
Can the Pseudonatural Creature template (which works for 'any corporeal creature') be applied to Astral Constructs?
I'm trying to build a Psionic Alienist PrC and...well, yeah :schemes:
Fafnir

06-27-07, 04:30 PM
Can the Pseudonatural Creature template (which works for 'any corporeal creature') be applied to Astral Constructs?
I'm trying to build a Psionic Alienist PrC and...well, yeah :schemes:

That's so... wrong, and... twisted! I like it!

It does work. It could be an augment gained at some point in the PrC progression. Or a separate summon effect. If all else fails, you could create a Summon Pseudonatural Phthisic power. Yuck! :yuck:
SlanderPanic

06-27-07, 04:47 PM
Nope. Strictly-speaking, an astral construct is not summoned. It's shaped from summoned material. That's why it's a Metacreativity (Creation) power. The summoning powers from Complete Psionic, on the other hand, might work, though one could argue that a pseudonatural larval flayer is redundant. :P
Lycanthromancer

06-27-07, 05:12 PM
Ooh. I like this idea. Tie psionics to the Far Realms in a supplement (as if illithids and aboleths weren't enough), and include some option or other to give pseudonatural menu abilities to your constructs.

Whee!
Rageheart

06-27-07, 05:13 PM
That's so... wrong, and... twisted! I like it!

It does work. It could be an augment gained at some point in the PrC progression. Or a separate summon effect. If all else fails, you could create a Summon Pseudonatural Phthisic power. Yuck! :yuck:

Or even a Pseudonatural Phrenic Phthisic ....
Fafnir

06-27-07, 05:14 PM
Double Post.
Fafnir

06-27-07, 05:16 PM
Nope. Strictly-speaking, an astral construct is not summoned. It's shaped from summoned material. That's why it's a Metacreativity (Creation) power. The summoning powers from Complete Psionic, on the other hand, might work, though one could argue that a pseudonatural larval flayer is redundant. :P

Actually, you can have a Pseudonatural Astral Construct, by the monster rules. HOW you get is something else entirely (you'd just have to rewrite the pseudonatural summoning into pseudonatural construction).

Or even a Pseudonatural Phrenic Phthisic ....

I never understood why Phthisic do not have the [Psionic] subtipe, myself.
AntiDjinn

06-28-07, 12:42 AM
It would require a little reworking of the PrC since the shaper makes rather than summons. Rather than actually summoning beings from the Far Realm, the alienist shaper could be an individual whose mind has been touched by the realm and who has been driven insane. His constructs would be formed with the alien geometries of the realm. In other words, since astral constructs are solidified figments of the imagination of their manifester, consider what forms might be born of the imagination of a shaper who has learned secrets even the gods would rather not know.
Fafnir

06-28-07, 06:38 AM
I was going to mention the Elder Eidolon template from LoM, but it cannot be applied to constructs. You could get some inspiration from it though.
Sarlax

06-28-07, 10:20 AM
I never understood why Phthisic do not have the [Psionic] subtipe, myself.
They do.
Fafnir

06-28-07, 11:32 AM
They do.

Whoops. :embarrass