Psionic Armor and Weapons [Archive] - Wizards Community

Psionic Armor and Weapons [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
pawsplay
07-10-07, 03:36 PM Does anyone else find it weird that psionics can't duplicate any of the usual magic armor and weapons abilities? Particularly, considering how many psionic powers deal energy damage, isn't it a bit weird you can't make a flaming psionic weapon?
Fafnir
07-10-07, 04:04 PM Does anyone else find it weird that psionics can't duplicate any of the usual magic armor and weapons abilities? Particularly, considering how many psionic powers deal energy damage, isn't it a bit weird you can't make a flaming psionic weapon?

If the DM applies psi-magic creation supertransparency, a.k.a. the rule stating that magic and psionic item creation feats are actually the same, renamed and reflavored, you can.

This was a common houserule for a long time and was then officially stated in the Magic Item Compendium.
InkBlot
07-10-07, 04:04 PM Considering that the psionic item section of the XPH constantly refers back to the DMG, and that there's a section about psionic equivilants of magic items, and that it's a pretty common variant to allow players to come up with new (DM approved) magic/psionic items... are you sure they can't?
vahju
07-10-07, 04:08 PM I believe the Magic Item Compendium talks about Psionic to Magic (vice versa) item creation.
pawsplay
07-10-07, 04:37 PM And it's really funny to me there's a psionic keen edge power, but no keen psionic weapons.

And soulknives have many conventional magical weapon enhancements available.
Fleem
07-11-07, 09:58 AM It's probably covered in the Magic Item Compendium, but I imagine they didn't bother rewriting all the standard enhancements that you could also do with Psionics. I certainly wouldn't thank them for reprinting several pages of DMG stuff in the EPH.
pawsplay
07-11-07, 11:50 AM Sure, but none of those abilities are printed on the random psionic item tables, either. Ergo, they are not standard. It's strange that none of the common properties were given common equivalents, even though that's true of many powers/spells.
angellis_ater
07-11-07, 11:59 AM Magic Item Compendium states that someone with the correct Item Creation feats (regardless of them being Psionic or Magic) and a sufficient substitute power/spell can create the same kind of item (or enhancement) as the "other side"
pawsplay
07-11-07, 01:09 PM Ok. So why don't psionic characters bother enough to create keen weapons or shocking weapons often enough for them to appear on treasure tables?
InkBlot
07-11-07, 04:08 PM The random treasure tables are just there for DMs who don't want to have to bother creating their own customized tables, or creating custom treasure for each encounter. They have nothing to do with campaign setting features like how often psions create shocking keen weapons.

And I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty certain those random treasure tables in the XPH have notes on how to combine them with the standard treasure tables from the DMG.
pawsplay
07-11-07, 04:15 PM The random treasure tables are just there for DMs who don't want to have to bother creating their own customized tables, or creating custom treasure for each encounter. They have nothing to do with campaign setting features like how often psions create shocking keen weapons.

If you used those tables it would. It is not possible to roll up a shocking keen psionic weapon.
Deekin
07-11-07, 06:33 PM You can with MIC.
Legdiwena
07-11-07, 07:18 PM What is MIC?
InkBlot
07-11-07, 08:43 PM MIC = Magic Item Compendium (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/107627200)
pawsplay
07-12-07, 10:03 AM More Item Confusion :)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
pawsplay 07-10-07, 03:36 PM	Does anyone else find it weird that psionics can't duplicate any of the usual magic armor and weapons abilities? Particularly, considering how many psionic powers deal energy damage, isn't it a bit weird you can't make a flaming psionic weapon?
Fafnir 07-10-07, 04:04 PM	Does anyone else find it weird that psionics can't duplicate any of the usual magic armor and weapons abilities? Particularly, considering how many psionic powers deal energy damage, isn't it a bit weird you can't make a flaming psionic weapon? If the DM applies psi-magic creation supertransparency, a.k.a. the rule stating that magic and psionic item creation feats are actually the same, renamed and reflavored, you can. This was a common houserule for a long time and was then officially stated in the Magic Item Compendium.
InkBlot 07-10-07, 04:04 PM	Considering that the psionic item section of the XPH constantly refers back to the DMG, and that there's a section about psionic equivilants of magic items, and that it's a pretty common variant to allow players to come up with new (DM approved) magic/psionic items... are you sure they can't?
vahju 07-10-07, 04:08 PM	I believe the Magic Item Compendium talks about Psionic to Magic (vice versa) item creation.
pawsplay 07-10-07, 04:37 PM	And it's really funny to me there's a psionic keen edge power, but no keen psionic weapons. And soulknives have many conventional magical weapon enhancements available.
Fleem 07-11-07, 09:58 AM	It's probably covered in the Magic Item Compendium, but I imagine they didn't bother rewriting all the standard enhancements that you could also do with Psionics. I certainly wouldn't thank them for reprinting several pages of DMG stuff in the EPH.
pawsplay 07-11-07, 11:50 AM	Sure, but none of those abilities are printed on the random psionic item tables, either. Ergo, they are not standard. It's strange that none of the common properties were given common equivalents, even though that's true of many powers/spells.
angellis_ater 07-11-07, 11:59 AM	Magic Item Compendium states that someone with the correct Item Creation feats (regardless of them being Psionic or Magic) and a sufficient substitute power/spell can create the same kind of item (or enhancement) as the "other side"
pawsplay 07-11-07, 01:09 PM	Ok. So why don't psionic characters bother enough to create keen weapons or shocking weapons often enough for them to appear on treasure tables?
InkBlot 07-11-07, 04:08 PM	The random treasure tables are just there for DMs who don't want to have to bother creating their own customized tables, or creating custom treasure for each encounter. They have nothing to do with campaign setting features like how often psions create shocking keen weapons. And I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty certain those random treasure tables in the XPH have notes on how to combine them with the standard treasure tables from the DMG.
pawsplay 07-11-07, 04:15 PM	The random treasure tables are just there for DMs who don't want to have to bother creating their own customized tables, or creating custom treasure for each encounter. They have nothing to do with campaign setting features like how often psions create shocking keen weapons. If you used those tables it would. It is not possible to roll up a shocking keen psionic weapon.
Deekin 07-11-07, 06:33 PM	You can with MIC.
Legdiwena 07-11-07, 07:18 PM	What is MIC?
InkBlot 07-11-07, 08:43 PM	MIC = Magic Item Compendium (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/107627200)
pawsplay 07-12-07, 10:03 AM	More Item Confusion :)