Psionic Bleach Builds [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Prime32

12-29-07, 04:19 PM
In this (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=971119) thread, someone wanted to duplicate Byakuya Kuchki. I gave the following response: Make a giant katana out of aurorum (Book of Exalted Deeds). Play an eldritch knight, and cast a permanent shrink item spell on the weapon. To attack, cast quickened shatter on the katana, then cast telekinesis to attack your enemy with the pieces. For bankai, call out the command word for shrink item just after the thrust, so that the fragments grow much larger. Aurorum objects reform when the pieces are brought back together.

Replace that with Make a giant katana out of aurorum (Book of Exalted Deeds). Play an psychic warrior with one level of warlock, and pay to have a permanent shrink item spell cast on the weapon. To attack, use the shatter invocation on the katana, then manifest telekinetic thrust to attack your enemy with the pieces. For bankai, call out the command word for shrink item just after the thrust, so that the fragments grow much larger. Aurorum objects reform when the pieces are brought back together.

Since there's a Psionic Naruto Builds (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=589061) thread, I thought why not make one for Bleach?

Zanpakuto are psicrystals turned into katanas through one of the methods here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=8508111&postcount=42), and possibly enchanted with the manifester special quality.

Most bankai are astral constructs.

Flash Step is pisionic dimension door.
Silverthumb

12-31-07, 01:11 AM
Zaraki doesn't need Psionics. :D
Prime32

12-31-07, 09:11 AM
Only as much as Rock Lee (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=8499788&postcount=17) does
Silverthumb

12-31-07, 12:22 PM
Only as much as Rock Lee (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=8499788&postcount=17) does

Good point. :D
The_Mess

01-05-08, 11:27 AM
I support this thread entirely, even if I have no great talent for simulating characters with D&D rules. Get to it, people! I want this thread much longer than the silly Naruto one!
Prime32

01-05-08, 03:00 PM
Using at least some ToB is unavoidable - Ichigo has plenty of Diamond Mind manouvers, possibly using avalanche of blades or time stands still for bankai.

That "Moon's Fang Cutting Heaven" attack of his seems like psionic disintegrate to me

His Hollow side could be represented by form of doom


These builds are works in progress - if you have any suggestions for feats, powers, etc. that characters should have, I'm open to them.
Prime32

01-05-08, 03:33 PM
Triple post
Prime32

01-05-08, 03:37 PM
Triple post
Prime32

01-05-08, 03:43 PM
Byakuya Kuchki

http://xh.ferventfire.org/xh/pic/images/kuchiki_byakuya_bankai1.jpghttp://bleach7.com/information/guide/manga/6a.jpg
LN Psion 10/slayer 10/swordsage 1
Feats: Flick of the Wrist, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Snap Kick, Sun School

Manouevers: shadow jaunt

Flash Step: shadow jaunt, dimension hop
Shikai - Scatter, 1000 cherry blossoms: crystal shard
Bankai - Vibrant Display of 1000 cherry blossoms: hail of crystals, mental barrier
Scene of the Massacre, Vibrant Display of 1000 cherry blossoms: wall of ectoplasm, call weaponry, truevenom weapon
Final Scene, White Imperial Sword: psychofeedback, metaphysical weapon, weapon of energy


One of Byakuya's signature attacks is to Flash Step behind an enemy and destroy two...soul thingies. Sun School lets him make an immediate attack after teleporting, and Snap Kick lets him make two attacks. Flick of the Wrist lets him catch an opponent flat-footed, and Improved Sunder is obvious.

While some of his abilities could be statted if he were a psychic warrior, Byakuya also has great skill in kido magic, which is represented by a full manifesting class.

There should probably be a soulknife version...
InkBlot

01-05-08, 06:48 PM
From the Psionic Motivators thread, in response to a picture of Uryu Ishida posted by StruckingFuggle (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=14746550&postcount=1786):

How about Soulknife5/Soulbow10/Illumine Soul5?

Although, I did stop watching that show once it turned from "punk kid with mysterious powers and creepy dead girl solve mysteries and save lost souls" to "emo kid with OMGHAX superpowers totally PWNs the underworld!" So maybe I'm missing something.

edit: Hmm... that build only has 13 BAB. Maybe Soulknife 4/Fighter 1/Ranger1/Soulbow 8/Slayer 1/Illumine Soul 4. Or something like that. That has BAB 16, Favored Enemy (undead) twice, the ability to automatically sense all undead within 60 feet, +6 equivalent mind arrows (+wis to damage), a +6 equivalent mind blade (including undead bane), an 8d6 positive energy ray, some self healing, immunity to death/negative energy effects, and five good bonus feats.

Revising the build again: Soulknife 4/Ranger 1/Soulbow 1/Slayer 1/Illumine Soul 1/Soulbow +3/Illumine Soul +3/Soulbow +4/Fighter 2. It's just a smoother progression. Feats are still up in the air, although he should have the standard archery feats, plus Zen Archery and Penetrating Shot.

I think Incarnum can duplicate some of his abilities, or at least match the flavor of collecting spirit particles to power up. He can take Incarnum feats or the Shape Soulmeld feats for these powers. Azure Enmity, Psycarnum Blade, and Psycarnum Infusion would be useful to him. Shape Soulmeld (Sighting Gloves), Shape Soulmeld (Airstep Sandles), and Shape Soulmeld (Blink Shirt).

Flash Step could be Hidden Talent (Dimension Hop), Martial Study (Shadow Stride), Martial Study (Sudden Leap), a reflavored Blink Shirt, or any random abilities that increase his base land speed.

He also has a healthy selection of magic items, which I won't really get into. Most of them sound just like dorjes/wands and mindblade gauntlets anyway.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/struckingfuggle/images/soulbow.jpg
Prime32

01-14-08, 11:13 AM
(Rough non-psionic version for now)

Ichigo Kurosaki

http://shodloer.free.fr/avatars/BLEACH/Bleach-ichigo.jpghttp://www.bleachfan.de/bilder/zanpakuto/zangetsu3.jpg

CG Azurin Warblade 6/Incandescent Champion 7/Eternal Blade 10/Barbarian 1 (whirling frenzy variant)
Feats: Extra Essentia, Lightning Reflexes, Power Attack, Open Least Chakra (crown), Shape Soulmeld (crystal helm)
Manouevers: Time Stands Still, Avalanche of Blades
Essentia: 9

Gestuga Tenshou (Moon's Fang Cutting Heaven): Incandesecnt Ray
Bankai - Tensa Zangetsu (Heavenly Chains Cutting the Moon): Avalanche of blades, Incarnum overload, Island in time, Time Stands still
Hollow Mask: Whirling Frenzy (Instead of getting rage 1/day, Ichigo can rage for a total number of rounds per day equal to 3 + his Con modifier, but his rages cannot last more than 2 rounds.)


Ichigo gets a fast healing power from his incandescent champion levels, representing the universal shonen hero ability to withstand great punishment. Crystal helm boosts his Will save, but its main purpose is letting him hit incorporeal creatures.
Ben_Breeck

01-23-08, 11:37 AM
Maybe it should be renamed as Incarnum Bleach Builds :cool:
StruckingFuggle

01-25-08, 03:29 PM
Flash Step is pisionic dimension door.

I wonder how you'd plan to model Yoruichi, who can do that 100 times in a row?



(it seems a good effort, but I maintain that Bleach can't really be well-modeled in DnD, in part because it's on a power level and especially a power "schedule" that doesn't exactly fit with DnD (they go way beyond anything that can be well-modeled by the four-encounters-a-day balance metric the game's built around), and fights in it are far more 'aerobic' and all over the place than they are in DnD ... but I do think it'll be a good effort and fun to watch!)
InkBlot

01-25-08, 03:52 PM
How far do they travel when they flash step? Unless they're traveling over 600 feet each time, it's better to model the flash step as dimension hop or dimension slide. Since dimension hop is only a 1st level power, an 11th level Ardent, Psion, or Wilder could "flash step" 100 times in a row and still have at least 6 power points left over.
The_Mess

01-25-08, 04:06 PM
(it seems a good effort, but I maintain that Bleach can't really be well-modeled in DnD, in part because it's on a power level and especially a power "schedule" that doesn't exactly fit with DnD (they go way beyond anything that can be well-modeled by the four-encounters-a-day balance metric the game's built around), and fights in it are far more 'aerobic' and all over the place than they are in DnD ... but I do think it'll be a good effort and fun to watch!)

Well, that's why it's called "modelling" instead of "replicating". :-)

Obviously, Bleach isn't D&D. I mean, come on, Ichigo goes from captain level to Bankai in three days fighting one person... just how many XP is that guy worth!

I just finished watching all the Bleach episodes Cartoon Network has run (sorry, I don't have all the manga) and made notes on what everyone does, so I'll probably be throwing in my own, ill-considered ideas shortly.
Prime32

01-25-08, 05:08 PM
Obviously, Bleach isn't D&D. I mean, come on, Ichigo goes from captain level to Bankai in three days fighting one person... just how many XP is that guy worth!
All captains can use Bankai (except Kenpachi Zaraki), and the fight was more of a metaphorical thing, since he was fighting his sword (which was formed from part of his soul) to increase its power.

I hope more people will contribute to this thread, even if they don't use psionics.
There's a video of most of the Ichigo v. Byakuya fight here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SngE5YSyknM
Prime32

01-25-08, 05:09 PM
How far do they travel when they flash step? Unless they're traveling over 600 feet each time, it's better to model the flash step as dimension hop or dimension slide. Since dimension hop is only a 1st level power, an 11th level Ardent, Psion, or Wilder could "flash step" 100 times in a row and still have at least 6 power points left over.

Yeah, that's probably better - I'll edit the Byakuya stats.

As for Yoruichi, a swordsage/jade phoenix mage build with Arcane Strike immediately comes to mind
TheKeyofE

01-25-08, 11:00 PM
How far do they travel when they flash step? Unless they're traveling over 600 feet each time, it's better to model the flash step as dimension hop or dimension slide. Since dimension hop is only a 1st level power, an 11th level Ardent, Psion, or Wilder could "flash step" 100 times in a row and still have at least 6 power points left over.

Inconstant Location?
Ethican2

03-06-08, 08:27 PM
in regards to ichigo, I keep wanting to throw in 6 levels of master of masks for the invisible mask ability.( default masks transparent, hollow mask visible) the masks could be reflavored for appearance.

also the PrC eternal blade doesn't really work due to racial requirements.
Silvercrys

05-05-08, 05:56 PM
Feats: Flick of the Wrist, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Snap Kick, Sun School

Sun School has Flurry of Blows as a prerequisite, unfortunately.

If you use fractional base attack and saves, the following isn't too bad for Byakuya:

Battle Sorcerer 9/Swordsage 1/Jade Pheonix Mage 10

as well as

Cleric 9/Swordsage 1/Ruby Knight Vindicator 10


If you don't mind an Evil Byakuya (or you can waive alignment restrictions) this one's the best though:
Swordsage 7/Ur-Priest 2/Shiba Protector 1/Ruby Knight Vindicator 10

All of them feel better when you use Spell Points instead of Spell Slots, of course.