Psionic Defenses and Mental Magic [Archive] - Wizards Community

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GoriceXII

06-11-07, 07:03 PM
I'm a little unclear on how some of this works--for instance meenlocks and aboleths' enslavement. How do psionic defenses function against them?
CrimsonDeath

06-11-07, 07:29 PM
If you're using psionics in the first place, you'd probably be using the psionic Aboleth presented in the Expanded Psionics Handbook, which has Psionic Dominate as a psi-like ability instead of the unique Enslave ability. Defenses that apply against psionics should be fully effective, even if they don't apply against magic. If you're not using the psionic Aboleth for some reason, you should probably apply psionic-specific defenses anyway since the Aboleths' other spell-like abilities are described as being psionic in nature.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Meenlocks, but a similar train of logic should be applicable one way or the other.
Lycanthromancer

06-11-07, 08:26 PM
If you're using psionics/magic transparency, then any magical/psionic/racial defensive measures should work just fine.

If not...well...you're screwed.

DON'T USE NONTRANSPARENCY.
AntiDjinn

06-11-07, 09:00 PM
Using the standard XPH rules, if a power enhances your saving throw then it helps against an effect that calls for that type of saving throw. For example, Empty Mind gives you a +2 bonus on Will saves until your next action. If an effect (spell, power, ability, or whatever) calls for a Will save then Empty Mind applies regardless of the type of effect. This is also true for powers that allow you to reroll a failed save.
Lycanthromancer

06-11-07, 09:02 PM
Oh, and psionic mind blank specifically specifies any mind-affecting effect, regardless of whether it is magical or psionic. Magical mind blank doesn't have the same stipulation. So...um...yeah.
GoriceXII

06-12-07, 11:47 AM
So according to that (and using transparency) then the pc in question should be able to use psionic mind blank to defend against the aboleth's enslavement ability then, and it just adds a bonus to his will save?
Deekin

06-12-07, 12:02 PM
So according to that (and using transparency) then the pc in question should be able to use psionic mind blank to defend against the aboleth's enslavement ability then, and it just adds a bonus to his will save?

Wait, are you using the Expanded psionics handbook or the Psionics handbook?

If your using Expanded Psionics Handbook:
The Power Mind-Blank grants blanket immunity to mind-effecting effects.
The Power Empty Mind gives you a +2 bonus on Will saves until your next action.
GoriceXII

06-12-07, 01:49 PM
Thank you I was confused about how that worked. This is the first time I've used psionics in a serious way in a game.