Psionics and ToB stuff [Archive] - Wizards Community

Psionics and ToB stuff [Archive] - Wizards Community

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archangel_arcanis_07
02-18-08, 04:53 PM Since i have tried to be involved in all of the things combining psionics and ToB i thought i would also try to help organize it all. Once i get enough submissions i will create a new thread in a handbook format, assumming i can get the formatting to work.

If you have a thread to something that helps combine psi and ToB please place a link to it here.

if you are working on your own material, once it gets finalized send it to me.

please any material that you make try to have it evaluated by others on the forums as well to make sure it is relevant and not broken or easily exploited.

Also expect me to be critical of anything that is submitted, i don't want psionics to loose its balanced status like magic. I will try to be fair and will happily change any ratings on something if you can give me good enough reasons to. I will intentionally try to find ways to exploit anything submitted so as to point out potential flaws newer DM's should look out for, but if in a reasonable player's hands the class seems to work out fine i will just make notes of the possible trouble areas.

Thanks in advance for any submissions.
InkBlot
02-18-08, 04:56 PM I just posted this in another thread.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=993106
DIAMOND FOCUS [FIGHTER, PSIONIC]
The Diamond Mind discipline teaches you how to achieve deeper focus in battle.
Prerequisites: One Diamond Mind stance, Psionic Meditation, Wis 13, Concentration 7 ranks.
Benefit: Any time you are psionically focused and in a Diamond Mind stance, you can take a move action to focus on your stance. At any time when you need to expend your psionic focus, you can end your stance instead (a swift action), so long as you have not changed or ended your stance since you focused on it.
archangel_arcanis_07
02-18-08, 05:02 PM it was seeing that thread that got me to working on this. I have been involved in both of the Diamond Saint threads and just wanted to compile that which others have created that i didn't know about yet. And hopefully with the final thread it will be a great resource for anyone wanting to combine the 2 most balanced books i've seen come out of WotC.
Katash
02-19-08, 12:17 AM Putting both Diamond Saint and Iron Mind in there?
archangel_arcanis_07
02-19-08, 09:30 AM unless there is little to no real difference between them then yes i will include both. I haven't looked at the Iron Mind (not the one in Races of Stone) in a while and the Diamond Saint keeps going through spurts of rapid change then nothing for months.

Since those are the only 2 PrC's i've seen for it i'll likely include multiple incarnations of each as they neared the end of one person developing it. That way you have a choice as to which version fits your game better. Or i'll just rename them to distinguish between them if they are different enough.

Please place a link to the iron mind thread in this one so that i don't have to sift through all of the forums for it.
archangel_arcanis_07
02-22-08, 10:37 AM http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=828188

just posting this here so that i can reference back to both classes.

Is there even anything else Psi and ToB to include? If not this is going to be the shortest handbook ever.
InkBlot
02-22-08, 06:26 PM There's a lot of inate synergy between ToB and the XPH. You could expound upon that.

Diamond Mind maneuvers often require concentration checks, and expending psionic focus lets you take 15 on a concentration check.

Martial Study and Martial Stance are Fighter bonus feats, and Psychic Warriors get free Fighter bonus feats.

Psychic Renewal lets you recover a maneuver at a far lower cost than manifesting a power of the same level. Psywars can take it as a bonus feat.

Instant Clarity lets you attain psionic focus more quickly. Psywars can take it as a bonus feat.

Tiger Claw has claws as a favored weapon, and Psywars can get claws easily with claws of the beast.

There's SAD synergy between the classes: Lurks, Psions, and Warblades use Int; Ardents, Fists Of Zuoken, Psychic Warriors, War Minds, and Sword Sages use Wis.

Tome Of Battle de-emphasizes full attacks, and WotC has not published a single psionic base class with full BAB.
syrazemyla
02-24-08, 07:31 PM Warminds use Wis.
InkBlot
02-24-08, 07:44 PM Thankyou. I had also forgotten about Lurks.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
archangel_arcanis_07 02-18-08, 04:53 PM	Since i have tried to be involved in all of the things combining psionics and ToB i thought i would also try to help organize it all. Once i get enough submissions i will create a new thread in a handbook format, assumming i can get the formatting to work. If you have a thread to something that helps combine psi and ToB please place a link to it here. if you are working on your own material, once it gets finalized send it to me. please any material that you make try to have it evaluated by others on the forums as well to make sure it is relevant and not broken or easily exploited. Also expect me to be critical of anything that is submitted, i don't want psionics to loose its balanced status like magic. I will try to be fair and will happily change any ratings on something if you can give me good enough reasons to. I will intentionally try to find ways to exploit anything submitted so as to point out potential flaws newer DM's should look out for, but if in a reasonable player's hands the class seems to work out fine i will just make notes of the possible trouble areas. Thanks in advance for any submissions.
InkBlot 02-18-08, 04:56 PM	I just posted this in another thread. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=993106 DIAMOND FOCUS [FIGHTER, PSIONIC] The Diamond Mind discipline teaches you how to achieve deeper focus in battle. Prerequisites: One Diamond Mind stance, Psionic Meditation, Wis 13, Concentration 7 ranks. Benefit: Any time you are psionically focused and in a Diamond Mind stance, you can take a move action to focus on your stance. At any time when you need to expend your psionic focus, you can end your stance instead (a swift action), so long as you have not changed or ended your stance since you focused on it.
archangel_arcanis_07 02-18-08, 05:02 PM	it was seeing that thread that got me to working on this. I have been involved in both of the Diamond Saint threads and just wanted to compile that which others have created that i didn't know about yet. And hopefully with the final thread it will be a great resource for anyone wanting to combine the 2 most balanced books i've seen come out of WotC.
Katash 02-19-08, 12:17 AM	Putting both Diamond Saint and Iron Mind in there?
archangel_arcanis_07 02-19-08, 09:30 AM	unless there is little to no real difference between them then yes i will include both. I haven't looked at the Iron Mind (not the one in Races of Stone) in a while and the Diamond Saint keeps going through spurts of rapid change then nothing for months. Since those are the only 2 PrC's i've seen for it i'll likely include multiple incarnations of each as they neared the end of one person developing it. That way you have a choice as to which version fits your game better. Or i'll just rename them to distinguish between them if they are different enough. Please place a link to the iron mind thread in this one so that i don't have to sift through all of the forums for it.
archangel_arcanis_07 02-22-08, 10:37 AM	http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=828188 just posting this here so that i can reference back to both classes. Is there even anything else Psi and ToB to include? If not this is going to be the shortest handbook ever.
InkBlot 02-22-08, 06:26 PM	There's a lot of inate synergy between ToB and the XPH. You could expound upon that. Diamond Mind maneuvers often require concentration checks, and expending psionic focus lets you take 15 on a concentration check. Martial Study and Martial Stance are Fighter bonus feats, and Psychic Warriors get free Fighter bonus feats. Psychic Renewal lets you recover a maneuver at a far lower cost than manifesting a power of the same level. Psywars can take it as a bonus feat. Instant Clarity lets you attain psionic focus more quickly. Psywars can take it as a bonus feat. Tiger Claw has claws as a favored weapon, and Psywars can get claws easily with claws of the beast. There's SAD synergy between the classes: Lurks, Psions, and Warblades use Int; Ardents, Fists Of Zuoken, Psychic Warriors, War Minds, and Sword Sages use Wis. Tome Of Battle de-emphasizes full attacks, and WotC has not published a single psionic base class with full BAB.
syrazemyla 02-24-08, 07:31 PM	Warminds use Wis.
InkBlot 02-24-08, 07:44 PM	Thankyou. I had also forgotten about Lurks.