Psychic Reformation & maximum power level known [Archive] - Wizards Community

Psychic Reformation & maximum power level known [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Jarysha
10-04-07, 02:33 PM I was thinking about reforming a power of low level with psychic reformation, but I was wondering if I could reform it with a power up to « my maximum power level known » considering the level that I have now. Example : changing "Mind Thrust" I took at level 1 for "Telekinetic Maneuver".

Well, I know that the common sense tend to show otherwise, but by RAW , I think this is legal. What do you think?

References :

Powers Known

A psion begins play knowing three psion powers of your choice. Each time he achieves a new level, he unlocks the knowledge of new powers.
Choose the powers known from the psion power list, or from the list of powers of your chosen discipline. You cannot choose powers from restricted discipline lists other than your own discipline list. You can choose powers from disciplines other than your own if they are not on a restricted discipline list. (Exception: The feats Expanded Knowledge and Epic Expanded Knowledge do allow a psion to learn powers from the lists of other disciplines or even other classes.) A psion can manifest any power that has a power point cost equal to or lower than his manifester level.

(… blah blah)

Psychic Reformation
When this power is manifested, the subject can choose to spend its most recently gained skill points differently (picking new skills and abandoning old ones if it chooses) and to choose a different feat from the one it selected when advancing from its previous level to its current level.

The subject can also choose to forget powers it acquired when advancing to its current level, replacing them with new ones.
jbsaff
10-04-07, 02:43 PM Don't forget the next bit...
The subject can undo decisions of these sorts that were made at lower levels, if both the subject and the manifester agree to pay the necessary XP before this power is manifested (see below). The subject must abide by the standard rules for selecting skills and feats, and so it cannot take feats for which it doesn’t qualify or take crossclass skills as class skills.

A DM may rule that the powers must follow the same rules as skills and feats, meaning you can only trade out for a power you would have qualified for at that level.
Racinante
10-04-07, 03:14 PM Psychic Reformation
When this power is manifested, the subject can ...choose to forget powers it acquired when advancing to its current level...

...to reformat choices made when the character reached her current level. For each additional previous level into which the revision reaches...

My take on this is that you reformat the choices as if you were going from one level to another, so you would be bound to choose from options only available at that level.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Jarysha 10-04-07, 02:33 PM	I was thinking about reforming a power of low level with psychic reformation, but I was wondering if I could reform it with a power up to « my maximum power level known » considering the level that I have now. Example : changing "Mind Thrust" I took at level 1 for "Telekinetic Maneuver". Well, I know that the common sense tend to show otherwise, but by RAW , I think this is legal. What do you think? References : Powers Known A psion begins play knowing three psion powers of your choice. Each time he achieves a new level, he unlocks the knowledge of new powers. Choose the powers known from the psion power list, or from the list of powers of your chosen discipline. You cannot choose powers from restricted discipline lists other than your own discipline list. You can choose powers from disciplines other than your own if they are not on a restricted discipline list. (Exception: The feats Expanded Knowledge and Epic Expanded Knowledge do allow a psion to learn powers from the lists of other disciplines or even other classes.) A psion can manifest any power that has a power point cost equal to or lower than his manifester level. (… blah blah) Psychic Reformation When this power is manifested, the subject can choose to spend its most recently gained skill points differently (picking new skills and abandoning old ones if it chooses) and to choose a different feat from the one it selected when advancing from its previous level to its current level. The subject can also choose to forget powers it acquired when advancing to its current level, replacing them with new ones.
jbsaff 10-04-07, 02:43 PM	Don't forget the next bit... The subject can undo decisions of these sorts that were made at lower levels, if both the subject and the manifester agree to pay the necessary XP before this power is manifested (see below). The subject must abide by the standard rules for selecting skills and feats, and so it cannot take feats for which it doesn’t qualify or take crossclass skills as class skills. A DM may rule that the powers must follow the same rules as skills and feats, meaning you can only trade out for a power you would have qualified for at that level.
Racinante 10-04-07, 03:14 PM	Psychic Reformation When this power is manifested, the subject can ...choose to forget powers it acquired when advancing to its current level... ...to reformat choices made when the character reached her current level. For each additional previous level into which the revision reaches... My take on this is that you reformat the choices as if you were going from one level to another, so you would be bound to choose from options only available at that level.