Pyro question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Pyro question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Euler
09-11-07, 07:41 PM I just need confirmation for a game I'm playing at the moment. The Pyrokineticist's powers, such as, say, Nimbus, do not work underwater, correct?
InkBlot
09-11-07, 07:44 PM It works underwater. No reason why it shouldn't. A wizard's fireball spell works underwater too.
Euler
09-11-07, 07:45 PM It works underwater. No reason why it shouldn't. A wizard's fireball spell works underwater too.
Oh. :eek:

I believe I owe someone an apology, thanks for the swift response.

WizO's, lockhammer?
Artector
09-11-07, 08:09 PM You might want to consider a level check or something, a wizard's fireball does take a spellcraft check to cast underwater.
sijigs
09-11-07, 08:41 PM It works underwater. No reason why it shouldn't. A wizard's fireball spell works underwater too.

From SRD: Spells or spell-like effects with the fire descriptor are ineffective underwater unless the caster makes a Spellcraft check (DC 20 + spell level). If the check succeeds, the spell creates a bubble of steam instead of its usual fiery effect, but otherwise the spell works as described. A supernatural fire effect is ineffective underwater unless its description states otherwise.

You're a big bubbling nimbus of steam.

Sucks to be you underwater. :D
CrimsonDeath
09-11-07, 09:35 PM You might want to consider a level check or something, a wizard's fireball does take a spellcraft check to cast underwater.
The closest equivalent would be a Psicraft check, DC 20 + effective spell level, for the psi-like abilities. However, the SRD doesn't list effective spell levels for any of the pyrokineticist's psi-like abilities...

You're a big bubbling nimbus of steam.

Sucks to be you underwater. :D
Steam can scald you pretty badly. Notice that it "otherwise works as normal". I'd always interpreted that as "it still does damage and has its normal effects, but just looks different".
sijigs
09-11-07, 09:45 PM Steam can scald you pretty badly. Notice that it "otherwise works as normal". I'd always interpreted that as "it still does damage and has its normal effects, but just looks different".

My DM would jump all over this as.. "you take damage from the scalding steam and vision is hampered."

Makes sense I guess even if slightly mean.

Note to Pyro.. do NOT go anywhere near water - especially UNDERwater.
CrimsonDeath
09-11-07, 10:29 PM My DM would jump all over this as.. "you take damage from the scalding steam and vision is hampered."

Makes sense I guess even if slightly mean.

Note to Pyro.. do NOT go anywhere near water - especially UNDERwater.
Even though the Nimbus of Fire specifically states that it doesn't harm the Pyrokineticist who produces it? Also, would his fire resistance apply? (And probably remind him that if fire resistance doesn't protect me underwater, it doesn't protect NPCs or monsters underwater, either.)
Wight_Chocolate
09-11-07, 10:36 PM Even though the Nimbus of Fire specifically states that it doesn't harm the Pyrokineticist who produces it?

Seriously.

"So what, the hot steam causes harm to me and yet the blazing inferno doesn't?"
sijigs
09-11-07, 11:01 PM Even though the Nimbus of Fire specifically states that it doesn't harm the Pyrokineticist who produces it? Also, would his fire resistance apply? (And probably remind him that if fire resistance doesn't protect me underwater, it doesn't protect NPCs or monsters underwater, either.)

Good point re: fire resistance. It would be a vision thingee that he'd go for.

"So what, the hot steam causes harm to me and yet the blazing inferno doesn't?"

As above.
Sagetim
09-13-07, 01:16 PM Good point re: fire resistance. It would be a vision thingee that he'd go for.

As above.

If you really want to screw with the DM though, you could be a kineticist of a different element (ice, sound, acid, and electrical are all options posted here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040625e)
Count Nerindil Van Seraph
09-13-07, 01:25 PM Yet another reason to play a pyro.

Chicks dig the jacuzzi.
The_Shaman
09-13-07, 03:04 PM Yeah, but imagine the fun you could have underwater with the variant kineticists...the electrokineticist, for example, becomes pure madness :D The cryo is the only one who might get in trouble underwater... encasing yourself in a rock-hard ice block tends to have some disadvantages, too :).
Ecalsneerg
09-13-07, 04:19 PM Yet another reason to play a pyro.

Chicks dig the jacuzzi.
Must... resist... urge... to... play... Pyro...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Euler 09-11-07, 07:41 PM	I just need confirmation for a game I'm playing at the moment. The Pyrokineticist's powers, such as, say, Nimbus, do not work underwater, correct?
InkBlot 09-11-07, 07:44 PM	It works underwater. No reason why it shouldn't. A wizard's fireball spell works underwater too.
Euler 09-11-07, 07:45 PM	It works underwater. No reason why it shouldn't. A wizard's fireball spell works underwater too. Oh. :eek: I believe I owe someone an apology, thanks for the swift response. WizO's, lockhammer?
Artector 09-11-07, 08:09 PM	You might want to consider a level check or something, a wizard's fireball does take a spellcraft check to cast underwater.
sijigs 09-11-07, 08:41 PM	It works underwater. No reason why it shouldn't. A wizard's fireball spell works underwater too. From SRD: Spells or spell-like effects with the fire descriptor are ineffective underwater unless the caster makes a Spellcraft check (DC 20 + spell level). If the check succeeds, the spell creates a bubble of steam instead of its usual fiery effect, but otherwise the spell works as described. A supernatural fire effect is ineffective underwater unless its description states otherwise. You're a big bubbling nimbus of steam. Sucks to be you underwater. :D
CrimsonDeath 09-11-07, 09:35 PM	You might want to consider a level check or something, a wizard's fireball does take a spellcraft check to cast underwater. The closest equivalent would be a Psicraft check, DC 20 + effective spell level, for the psi-like abilities. However, the SRD doesn't list effective spell levels for any of the pyrokineticist's psi-like abilities... You're a big bubbling nimbus of steam. Sucks to be you underwater. :D Steam can scald you pretty badly. Notice that it "otherwise works as normal". I'd always interpreted that as "it still does damage and has its normal effects, but just looks different".
sijigs 09-11-07, 09:45 PM	Steam can scald you pretty badly. Notice that it "otherwise works as normal". I'd always interpreted that as "it still does damage and has its normal effects, but just looks different". My DM would jump all over this as.. "you take damage from the scalding steam and vision is hampered." Makes sense I guess even if slightly mean. Note to Pyro.. do NOT go anywhere near water - especially UNDERwater.
CrimsonDeath 09-11-07, 10:29 PM	My DM would jump all over this as.. "you take damage from the scalding steam and vision is hampered." Makes sense I guess even if slightly mean. Note to Pyro.. do NOT go anywhere near water - especially UNDERwater. Even though the Nimbus of Fire specifically states that it doesn't harm the Pyrokineticist who produces it? Also, would his fire resistance apply? (And probably remind him that if fire resistance doesn't protect me underwater, it doesn't protect NPCs or monsters underwater, either.)
Wight_Chocolate 09-11-07, 10:36 PM	Even though the Nimbus of Fire specifically states that it doesn't harm the Pyrokineticist who produces it? Seriously. "So what, the hot steam causes harm to me and yet the blazing inferno doesn't?"
sijigs 09-11-07, 11:01 PM	Even though the Nimbus of Fire specifically states that it doesn't harm the Pyrokineticist who produces it? Also, would his fire resistance apply? (And probably remind him that if fire resistance doesn't protect me underwater, it doesn't protect NPCs or monsters underwater, either.) Good point re: fire resistance. It would be a vision thingee that he'd go for. "So what, the hot steam causes harm to me and yet the blazing inferno doesn't?" As above.
Sagetim 09-13-07, 01:16 PM	Good point re: fire resistance. It would be a vision thingee that he'd go for. As above. If you really want to screw with the DM though, you could be a kineticist of a different element (ice, sound, acid, and electrical are all options posted here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040625e)
Count Nerindil Van Seraph 09-13-07, 01:25 PM	Yet another reason to play a pyro. Chicks dig the jacuzzi.
The_Shaman 09-13-07, 03:04 PM	Yeah, but imagine the fun you could have underwater with the variant kineticists...the electrokineticist, for example, becomes pure madness :D The cryo is the only one who might get in trouble underwater... encasing yourself in a rock-hard ice block tends to have some disadvantages, too :).
Ecalsneerg 09-13-07, 04:19 PM	Yet another reason to play a pyro. Chicks dig the jacuzzi. Must... resist... urge... to... play... Pyro...