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shion
03-07-07, 01:21 PM Its the Psion Uncarnate immortal? Does it need to eat or breath? Because at lvl 10 to become corporeal for 1 minute, puts the "fast food" over a new perspective. Also the Heat Deat of the Pyrokineticist its a (Ps) does it use the class lvl or th character lvl?
Tempest Stormwind
03-07-07, 02:01 PM Its the Psion Uncarnate immortal? Does it need to eat or breath? Because at lvl 10 to become corporeal for 1 minute, puts the "fast food" over a new perspective.No, yes, and yes.

Unless it says he becomes immortal, he remains mortal. Unless it says he doesn't need to eat or breathe, he still does. It says neither of these things.

I could be forgetting an overarching rule on the Incorporeal subtype or in the class text, though -- I can't access d20SRD.org from this network. Please verify that it says nothing about it there.

Remember: Unless it says it does, it doesn't. Also the Heat Deat of the Pyrokineticist its a (Ps) does it use the class lvl or th character lvl?EVERY ability in the game that says "level" ALWAYS refers to CLASS level. The SINGLE exception would be if it says CHARACTER LEVEL or HIT DICE instead. Heat Death says "level". Thus, class level.
SlanderPanic
03-07-07, 02:26 PM The SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/prestigeClasses/psionUncarnate.htm) doesn't say a thing about the character's need to eat, drink, or breathe. It simply says you gain the incorporeal subtype (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#incorporealSubtype), which does not alter the base creature's needs for nourishment, rest, and respiration. (It allows them to "operate in water as easily as they do in air" but that's not an explicit statement regarding their breathing.)

I think it was Bruce's intent that psion uncarnates and unbodied be free of the need to eat, drink, breathe, and sleep, but we'll probably never know. Maybe the uncarnates use Assume Equipment to make food and drink incorporeal so they can consume them. Unbodied don't have that option, so it's anyone's guess as to how they go about it.
ArcTan
03-07-07, 02:31 PM Most of the time things like this, when they are spelled out, point out that the creature no longer needs to eat or breathe, but there are very few effects -- even capstone class abilities -- that take away your natural lifespan. True immortality is really hard to gain.
Part-Human2
03-07-07, 04:06 PM The Rules of the Game article There, Not There (part 3) (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040928a) and Libris Mortis address Incorporeality more in depth and it states that Incorporeal creatures don't eat, drink or breathe.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
shion 03-07-07, 01:21 PM	Its the Psion Uncarnate immortal? Does it need to eat or breath? Because at lvl 10 to become corporeal for 1 minute, puts the "fast food" over a new perspective. Also the Heat Deat of the Pyrokineticist its a (Ps) does it use the class lvl or th character lvl?
Tempest Stormwind 03-07-07, 02:01 PM	Its the Psion Uncarnate immortal? Does it need to eat or breath? Because at lvl 10 to become corporeal for 1 minute, puts the "fast food" over a new perspective.No, yes, and yes. Unless it says he becomes immortal, he remains mortal. Unless it says he doesn't need to eat or breathe, he still does. It says neither of these things. I could be forgetting an overarching rule on the Incorporeal subtype or in the class text, though -- I can't access d20SRD.org from this network. Please verify that it says nothing about it there. Remember: Unless it says it does, it doesn't. Also the Heat Deat of the Pyrokineticist its a (Ps) does it use the class lvl or th character lvl?EVERY ability in the game that says "level" ALWAYS refers to CLASS level. The SINGLE exception would be if it says CHARACTER LEVEL or HIT DICE instead. Heat Death says "level". Thus, class level.
SlanderPanic 03-07-07, 02:26 PM	The SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/prestigeClasses/psionUncarnate.htm) doesn't say a thing about the character's need to eat, drink, or breathe. It simply says you gain the incorporeal subtype (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#incorporealSubtype), which does not alter the base creature's needs for nourishment, rest, and respiration. (It allows them to "operate in water as easily as they do in air" but that's not an explicit statement regarding their breathing.) I think it was Bruce's intent that psion uncarnates and unbodied be free of the need to eat, drink, breathe, and sleep, but we'll probably never know. Maybe the uncarnates use Assume Equipment to make food and drink incorporeal so they can consume them. Unbodied don't have that option, so it's anyone's guess as to how they go about it.
ArcTan 03-07-07, 02:31 PM	Most of the time things like this, when they are spelled out, point out that the creature no longer needs to eat or breathe, but there are very few effects -- even capstone class abilities -- that take away your natural lifespan. True immortality is really hard to gain.
Part-Human2 03-07-07, 04:06 PM	The Rules of the Game article There, Not There (part 3) (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040928a) and Libris Mortis address Incorporeality more in depth and it states that Incorporeal creatures don't eat, drink or breathe.