Schism for some skill monkeys [Archive] - Wizards Community

Schism for some skill monkeys [Archive] - Wizards Community

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awaken_D_M_golem
04-16-07, 05:04 PM Schism gives you the extra mental action.
Do an Aid Another.
I'm guessing you use your own skill mods, and it's not like the extra mind is threatened, so maybe also take 10.
Might get a +2 or +4 or even a +6 on some mental skills.

What skills do you think this would apply to ??
Zemyla
04-16-07, 06:06 PM Well, Jump, obviously. "I am pushing you forward with my mind!"

Maybe Intimidate. "Can you hear my second mind screaming at you?!" That would freak anybody.
TheAngryFish
04-16-07, 07:26 PM autohypnosis, and possibly concentration; if you can do the concentration to get psionically focused you can then expend it on something like mental leap or inquisitor
calronmoonflower
04-16-07, 09:44 PM Knowledge checks.
awaken_D_M_golem
04-17-07, 04:57 PM Thanks for the replies, "guys".
{ ... cause you know that I don't know whether your screen persona is xx, xy, x? or something ... else ... }

On further review, I think any Int, Wis, or Cha skill could have this happen.
And the physical stat based skills, I'd give a 'maybe' bonus on a case by case basis.
Like jump - better body control, swim - read currents better, climb - find handholds faster.
But jump to activate a feat - no , swim to avoid drowning - no , climb still loses AC , etc.

A 4th level power(spell) providing a switchable 1st level power - skill boost ... this doesn't seem overpowered to me.
Suldarr'essalar
04-17-07, 05:17 PM Just about any skill really ;) "Bluff, bluff, bluff the stupid ogre" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0004.html)
AntiDjinn
04-18-07, 12:01 PM Having the second mind make a spot or listen check can be a lifesaver. How many times have you had a character shanked because you failed to notice something? The same applies to sense motive. Physical skills not so much; the secondary mind has no control over the body.
Kiklio
04-18-07, 04:36 PM If the second mind can't move the body, that would put a serious penalty on Spot checks, as you couldn't move your eyes and head. Unless you're trying to Spot the hidden sailboat in the painting. Listen wouldn't be impaired, though. Now, if you had Touchsight or Ubiquitous Vision, you'd be in business. The second mind would act like Navi, "Hey! Look! Listen!"

Social skills could be used if you had telepathy, which your second mind should share. Sleight of Hand becomes easier with distracting background noise. Bluff would be the big one, and that could facilitate other checks on your part, like Hide.
AntiDjinn
04-18-07, 07:33 PM Having the second mind make a spot check would assume the primary is doing the same. Only the primary needs to be looking around to have two minds analyzing the incoming data.
awaken_D_M_golem
04-22-07, 03:06 PM @ Suldarr'essalar : funny !

Effectively, the schism allows a re-roll on mental skill checks.
This is a U-shaped curve ~worth +1 on 1s and 20s, +4 on 5s and 15s, and +5 on 10s.
Aid Another is worth maybe +2 in threatening situations, or take 10 = auto +2 in non-threatening situations.

I thought AA scaled like the synergy bonuses, but it seems it doesn't.

So when should a Skill Monkey take Schism just for skill checks, as soon as possible ?!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
awaken_D_M_golem 04-16-07, 05:04 PM	Schism gives you the extra mental action. Do an Aid Another. I'm guessing you use your own skill mods, and it's not like the extra mind is threatened, so maybe also take 10. Might get a +2 or +4 or even a +6 on some mental skills. What skills do you think this would apply to ??
Zemyla 04-16-07, 06:06 PM	Well, Jump, obviously. "I am pushing you forward with my mind!" Maybe Intimidate. "Can you hear my second mind screaming at you?!" That would freak anybody.
TheAngryFish 04-16-07, 07:26 PM	autohypnosis, and possibly concentration; if you can do the concentration to get psionically focused you can then expend it on something like mental leap or inquisitor
calronmoonflower 04-16-07, 09:44 PM	Knowledge checks.
awaken_D_M_golem 04-17-07, 04:57 PM	Thanks for the replies, "guys". { ... cause you know that I don't know whether your screen persona is xx, xy, x? or something ... else ... } On further review, I think any Int, Wis, or Cha skill could have this happen. And the physical stat based skills, I'd give a 'maybe' bonus on a case by case basis. Like jump - better body control, swim - read currents better, climb - find handholds faster. But jump to activate a feat - no , swim to avoid drowning - no , climb still loses AC , etc. A 4th level power(spell) providing a switchable 1st level power - skill boost ... this doesn't seem overpowered to me.
Suldarr'essalar 04-17-07, 05:17 PM	Just about any skill really ;) "Bluff, bluff, bluff the stupid ogre" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0004.html)
AntiDjinn 04-18-07, 12:01 PM	Having the second mind make a spot or listen check can be a lifesaver. How many times have you had a character shanked because you failed to notice something? The same applies to sense motive. Physical skills not so much; the secondary mind has no control over the body.
Kiklio 04-18-07, 04:36 PM	If the second mind can't move the body, that would put a serious penalty on Spot checks, as you couldn't move your eyes and head. Unless you're trying to Spot the hidden sailboat in the painting. Listen wouldn't be impaired, though. Now, if you had Touchsight or Ubiquitous Vision, you'd be in business. The second mind would act like Navi, "Hey! Look! Listen!" Social skills could be used if you had telepathy, which your second mind should share. Sleight of Hand becomes easier with distracting background noise. Bluff would be the big one, and that could facilitate other checks on your part, like Hide.
AntiDjinn 04-18-07, 07:33 PM	Having the second mind make a spot check would assume the primary is doing the same. Only the primary needs to be looking around to have two minds analyzing the incoming data.
awaken_D_M_golem 04-22-07, 03:06 PM	@ Suldarr'essalar : funny ! Effectively, the schism allows a re-roll on mental skill checks. This is a U-shaped curve ~worth +1 on 1s and 20s, +4 on 5s and 15s, and +5 on 10s. Aid Another is worth maybe +2 in threatening situations, or take 10 = auto +2 in non-threatening situations. I thought AA scaled like the synergy bonuses, but it seems it doesn't. So when should a Skill Monkey take Schism just for skill checks, as soon as possible ?!