Time hop someones head? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Time hop someones head? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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borg286
06-22-07, 12:37 PM Can I use time hop to send a dragon's head into the future 6 seconds(1 round)?
It seems that if the head is too heavy (300 lbs max) the brain wouldn't be?
Rageheart
06-22-07, 01:35 PM Uh no.... it's an all or nothing. you cannot Time hop parts of a creature's body.

and RE:It seems that if the head is too heavy (300 lbs max) the brain wouldn't be?

Different power: Decerebrate (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/decerebrate.htm) (Psion/wilder 7)
InkBlot
06-22-07, 01:45 PM Decerebrate, baleful teleport, dissipating touch, and dimension twister all do the "teleport away body parts" trick.
Sarlax
06-22-07, 01:47 PM Can I use time hop to send a dragon's head into the future 6 seconds(1 round)?
Absolutely, but the rest of the body is going with it.
AntiDjinn
06-22-07, 02:02 PM Why are you asking about weight? Weight has absolutely noting to do with time hopping a creature. Target: One medium or smaller creature. You only worry about weight if you are hopping an object. Parts of creatues are not creatures themselves and are thus invalid targets.

In short, in case it hasn't become clear to you: No.
Rageheart
06-22-07, 02:12 PM Parts of creatues are not creatures themselves and are thus invalid targets.

Although an interesting question comes about from this:
Can you Time hop a Symbiote? (such as from Ebberon)
CrimsonDeath
06-23-07, 12:12 AM Although an interesting question comes about from this:
Can you Time hop a Symbiote? (such as from Ebberon)
Shouldn't be any more problematic than Time-Hopping an attended item.
AntiDjinn
06-23-07, 02:02 AM Although an interesting question comes about from this:
Can you Time hop a Symbiote? (such as from Ebberon)
As long as it has a creature write-up then it is a creature. You would need some way to target it though. A psionic entity, such as they type detailed under Host Feats is not something you could shoot at (though you can steal them temporarily with Feat Leech because those feats are also psionic feats). A stirge has a creature entry in the MM, an attached stirge is still a separate creature. Most grafts are written up as items (even if they are alive) so they would be targeted as attended items.
The_Shaman
06-23-07, 03:55 AM I would think it is a bit like disarm in this way. Body parts - except I suppose protheses - are not affected, but it might be handy to time hop an mage's component pouch or a cleric's holy symbol.

Alternatively, just try to send the entire creature :)
CrimsonDeath
06-23-07, 12:00 PM The thing is, there's a subtle difference between a symbiote and a graft. A symbiote is a separate creature that, if it really wanted to, could simply crawl off on its own, with little detrimental effect on the character who hosted it.
Lycanthromancer
06-23-07, 01:48 PM Would anybody like to see decerebrate as an augment to time hop? I know time hop is insanely useful already, but would it really be overpowered?
InkBlot
06-23-07, 02:01 PM I think it would make time hop too much of a must-have. Also, if you were going to do it then it should be more like a weak baleful teleport than decerebrate.
borg286
07-20-07, 11:42 AM could you time hop a wizards components pouch so as to render him useless?
RobbyPants
07-20-07, 11:57 AM could you time hop a wizards components pouch so as to render him useless?
Actually, you might be able to, as the power specifies an object as the target, and not an unattended object.

Although, I'm not sure how technical the deffinition of "object" is. If the component pouch contains components, does it still count as one object? Do the components go with? All in all, I'd be inclined to say they do.
Zemyla
07-20-07, 02:54 PM If you time hopped away a wizard's component pouch and the components remained behind, the world would explode, because a component pouch seems to have an infinite amount of material in it.
Jhaelen
07-20-07, 03:47 PM Can I use time hop to send a dragon's head into the future 6 seconds(1 round)?
It seems that if the head is too heavy (300 lbs max) the brain wouldn't be?It's already been answered, but I wanted to add that even if a creature's brain was a valid target, you'd have to have line of effect to it which would make it pretty useless...
Lycanthromancer
07-20-07, 04:20 PM Nuh uh. Beware the elder brain (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/lom_gallery/88137.jpg).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
borg286 06-22-07, 12:37 PM	Can I use time hop to send a dragon's head into the future 6 seconds(1 round)? It seems that if the head is too heavy (300 lbs max) the brain wouldn't be?
Rageheart 06-22-07, 01:35 PM	Uh no.... it's an all or nothing. you cannot Time hop parts of a creature's body. and RE:It seems that if the head is too heavy (300 lbs max) the brain wouldn't be? Different power: Decerebrate (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/decerebrate.htm) (Psion/wilder 7)
InkBlot 06-22-07, 01:45 PM	Decerebrate, baleful teleport, dissipating touch, and dimension twister all do the "teleport away body parts" trick.
Sarlax 06-22-07, 01:47 PM	Can I use time hop to send a dragon's head into the future 6 seconds(1 round)? Absolutely, but the rest of the body is going with it.
AntiDjinn 06-22-07, 02:02 PM	Why are you asking about weight? Weight has absolutely noting to do with time hopping a creature. Target: One medium or smaller creature. You only worry about weight if you are hopping an object. Parts of creatues are not creatures themselves and are thus invalid targets. In short, in case it hasn't become clear to you: No.
Rageheart 06-22-07, 02:12 PM	Parts of creatues are not creatures themselves and are thus invalid targets. Although an interesting question comes about from this: Can you Time hop a Symbiote? (such as from Ebberon)
CrimsonDeath 06-23-07, 12:12 AM	Although an interesting question comes about from this: Can you Time hop a Symbiote? (such as from Ebberon) Shouldn't be any more problematic than Time-Hopping an attended item.
AntiDjinn 06-23-07, 02:02 AM	Although an interesting question comes about from this: Can you Time hop a Symbiote? (such as from Ebberon) As long as it has a creature write-up then it is a creature. You would need some way to target it though. A psionic entity, such as they type detailed under Host Feats is not something you could shoot at (though you can steal them temporarily with Feat Leech because those feats are also psionic feats). A stirge has a creature entry in the MM, an attached stirge is still a separate creature. Most grafts are written up as items (even if they are alive) so they would be targeted as attended items.
The_Shaman 06-23-07, 03:55 AM	I would think it is a bit like disarm in this way. Body parts - except I suppose protheses - are not affected, but it might be handy to time hop an mage's component pouch or a cleric's holy symbol. Alternatively, just try to send the entire creature :)
CrimsonDeath 06-23-07, 12:00 PM	The thing is, there's a subtle difference between a symbiote and a graft. A symbiote is a separate creature that, if it really wanted to, could simply crawl off on its own, with little detrimental effect on the character who hosted it.
Lycanthromancer 06-23-07, 01:48 PM	Would anybody like to see decerebrate as an augment to time hop? I know time hop is insanely useful already, but would it really be overpowered?
InkBlot 06-23-07, 02:01 PM	I think it would make time hop too much of a must-have. Also, if you were going to do it then it should be more like a weak baleful teleport than decerebrate.
borg286 07-20-07, 11:42 AM	could you time hop a wizards components pouch so as to render him useless?
RobbyPants 07-20-07, 11:57 AM	could you time hop a wizards components pouch so as to render him useless? Actually, you might be able to, as the power specifies an object as the target, and not an unattended object. Although, I'm not sure how technical the deffinition of "object" is. If the component pouch contains components, does it still count as one object? Do the components go with? All in all, I'd be inclined to say they do.
Zemyla 07-20-07, 02:54 PM	If you time hopped away a wizard's component pouch and the components remained behind, the world would explode, because a component pouch seems to have an infinite amount of material in it.
Jhaelen 07-20-07, 03:47 PM	Can I use time hop to send a dragon's head into the future 6 seconds(1 round)? It seems that if the head is too heavy (300 lbs max) the brain wouldn't be?It's already been answered, but I wanted to add that even if a creature's brain was a valid target, you'd have to have line of effect to it which would make it pretty useless...
Lycanthromancer 07-20-07, 04:20 PM	Nuh uh. Beware the elder brain (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/lom_gallery/88137.jpg).