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nighttree 07-10-07, 09:11 AM	I have been creating "variant" Gnoll tribes for my game (based off of different "wild dog" types) and one of the ideas I had was to use the Anthropomorphic template (Savage Species 3.0) to create stats for them. When I applied the template to the Hyena (MM) I ended up with a slightly improved version of the "Common Gnoll". The LA is +2 (so a bit higher than the Gnoll as written), but I can't tell if it looks balanced ? Str +4, Dex +4, Con+4, Wis +4, Cha -2. 2D8 racial HD (BA +2, Fort +0, Ref +3, Will +3) Low-Light & Darkvision 60" Scent Bite attack: 1D6 Racial Skills: Hide, Listen, & Spot. Natural Armor: +2 For what I'm picturing it looks pretty "ON".....but I know SS is 3.0 (we play in 3.5) so I was I'm wondering if there is a 3.5 version of the template ? Or would people suggest any changes to the template for 3.5 ?
runestar 07-10-07, 09:19 AM	The gnoll's LA is way off. The way its stats are now, it should either do away with the humanoid HD altogether, or keep them and lower the LA to zero. This makes it statistically similar to the goliath from races of stone. As for your race, with 2 racial HD, it should be fine at LA+1.:)
nighttree 07-10-07, 09:41 AM	The gnoll's LA is way off. The way its stats are now, it should either do away with the humanoid HD altogether, or keep them and lower the LA to zero. This makes it statistically similar to the goliath from races of stone. As for your race, with 2 racial HD, it should be fine at LA+1.:) :OMG! If anything I thought the LA might be TO LOW. The "standard" Gnoll has an ECL of 3. The Anthropomorphic Hyena has an ECL of 4. That +1 ECL is netting him...... Dex +4, Con +2, Wis +4 Darkvision Scent +10 land speed +1 natural armor Bite attack (1D6) Monstrouse humanoid racial HD (which give a better BA, Ref, & Will save). That seems pretty good to me for a +1 LA ???
runestar 07-10-07, 09:46 AM	Oh, you are using monstrous humanoid HD...:embarrass I though you were sticking with humanoid HD...:P In that case, ratchet the LA up to +2, for a final ECL of 4. Bear in mind that I am comparing this to my suggestion that gnoll's LA be dropped, such that it has a final ECL of just 2 (or LA+1 sans the 2 humanoid HD).
Neutronium_Dragon 07-10-07, 09:51 AM	This one is probably okay at LA +2. It gets worthy stats and a number of other useful things. > If anything I thought the LA might be TO LOW. > The "standard" Gnoll has an ECL of 3. That's what he was referring to. The MM gnoll is a prime example of overcosted LA at ECL 3.
nighttree 07-10-07, 10:34 AM	This one is probably okay at LA +2. It gets worthy stats and a number of other useful things. > If anything I thought the LA might be TO LOW. > The "standard" Gnoll has an ECL of 3. That's what he was referring to. The MM gnoll is a prime example of overcosted LA at ECL 3. OH...I got ya. Thanks guy's :D