Any La 0 races with natural attacks [Archive] - Wizards Community

Any La 0 races with natural attacks [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Suzaku455
10-06-07, 08:23 PM I was thinking of having a rogue with natural attacks and sneak attack with them. But I don't want to spend the LA
Elemmakil
10-06-07, 08:54 PM Off the top of my head? Warforged fit the bill. I'm sure that there are plenty more.

-Elemmakil
El_Machinae
10-06-07, 09:30 PM I'd greatly recommend the Kenku, then.

But I might be biased, given who's the author of this thread on that topic.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=849156
Rustmonster
10-06-07, 09:31 PM There is an article, don't know where, on the D&D site where kobolds get natural weapons.
DreamerInsane
10-07-07, 09:24 AM Also, if you play a Silverbrow Human (Dragon Magic), you can use the bonus feat to take Shape Soulmeld (Magic of Incarnum) and select Dragon Claws (Dragon Magic) as your meld. The only trouble is that the claws would fizzle in an antimagic field.
The_Shaman
10-08-07, 09:09 AM Nezumi and hengeyoukai from Oriental adventures have natural attacks (the hengeyoukai seem to get them only in their animal shapes, though - I thought they had them in hybrid shape as well), and the 3.5 OA conversion in Dragon 318 removes the racial LA for hengeyoukai.
JudgeK
10-08-07, 09:27 AM There is at least one Anthropomorphic animal that has natural attacks (monkey is the one I recall), and there may be more. Got to love a monkey that uses grease a ton just for the jokes.
war_thog
10-08-07, 10:09 AM Kenku make awesome rogues.
And they get 2 claws.
Damage is crap, but still, you wanted nat weps on LA +0 for a rogue.
These guys are it, they get rogue as favoured, bonus dex, less str, have special abilities that favour being a rogue *mimic voices is le cool :)*
imakuni67
10-08-07, 12:14 PM There is an article, don't know where, on the D&D site where kobolds get natural weapons.

Can anyone find that?
RobbyPants
10-08-07, 12:47 PM There is an article, don't know where, on the D&D site where kobolds get natural weapons.
Can anyone find that?
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a)

It's the first entry under "Variant Kobold Racial Traits"
natzero
10-08-07, 10:43 PM KOBOLD !!!!!!!!!

:) :) :)

wizards has kobold with 2 1d3 claws listed here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060127a

kobold so own lol
runestar
10-08-07, 10:45 PM Humans can take the deformity feats at 1st lv and get claws as well.
war_thog
10-09-07, 09:35 AM I looked at that link and im not seeing kobolds with claws on it.
Just traps and paragon.
Did I miss something?
gullas
10-09-07, 09:40 AM shifters , when shifting as I can recall....
InkBlot
10-09-07, 09:44 AM Darfellan (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050805a&page=2), inuit/orca-themed people from Stormwrack, get a 1d6 bite attack.
RobbyPants
10-09-07, 10:24 AM I looked at that link and im not seeing kobolds with claws on it.
Just traps and paragon.
Did I miss something?
Are you talking about my link or natzero's link? In my link, it's the first entry under "variant kobold racial traits", like I said...

...in bold red :P
natzero
10-09-07, 08:11 PM <Originally Posted by war_thog View Post
I looked at that link and im not seeing kobolds with claws on it.
Just traps and paragon.
Did I miss something?>

its another click into the link.

under "playing to their strengths"

its under paragon's weapon/armor prof
snakeman830
10-13-07, 09:33 PM Off the top of my head:

Warforged (MM3)
Drafellen (Stormwrack)
Nezumi (Oriental Adventures)
Hengoaki (animal form only, Oriental Adventures)
Skaarj (Magic of Incarnum, I think I got the race name correct)

That's all I've seen for LA+0 races.
calronmoonflower
10-13-07, 11:07 PM Improved Unarmed Strike lets you do this.
Spiritwalker
10-25-07, 06:53 AM dragonborn anything for a breath weapon (or wings, or senses, but both can be bought through feats so breath weapon remains the best choice.)
The_Shaman
10-25-07, 07:31 AM I think you can buy a breath weapon, it's one of the grafts in Races of the Dragon - it's actually pretty good, 6d8 every 1d4 rounds. Actually, the book also has grafts that give you a tail and a claw attack.
Bahumut
10-25-07, 10:01 AM i remember CustServ saying that the natural attacks from the WE for kobolds arent a variant, they are overruling errata. everything else is optional though.
Orenmir
10-25-07, 01:16 PM Improved Unarmed Strike lets you do this.

You have to be a Monk in order for your fists/knees/elbows/feet/forehead/body to be considered natural weapons. IUS by itself won't do it.

Dabble in Psionics, probably PsyWar. There are plenty of powers that grant and augment claws. So, to more properly answer your original question... Any race can have natural attacks.
zook1shoe666
10-29-07, 01:12 AM the "variant" kobold is definitely the BEST rogue possibility.
Bahumut
10-30-07, 12:00 PM the "variant" kobold is definitely the BEST rogue possibility.

im inclined to agree, since slight build not only gives them another +4 to their hide check, but they can count as tiny to occupy a medium sized creature's space and use the "confound the bigfolk" feats =D and thats just the tip of the Icingdeath-berg =D
blade265
11-05-07, 06:27 AM You have to be a Monk in order for your fists/knees/elbows/feet/forehead/body to be considered natural weapons. IUS by itself won't do it.

The monks unarmed strike is considered a natural weapon only for the purpose of applying spells or effects that enhance either manufactured or natural weapons
Unarmed Strikes and Natural Weaponry

Before we move on, it's worth pointing out that a character making an unarmed attack, even with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, does not have natural weapons. Nor is a natural weapon a substitute for the Improved Unarmed Strike feat. As we saw in Part One, unarmed strikes allow iterative attacks and natural weapons do not.

A feat that requires natural weaponry as a prerequisite, such as Multiattack, doesn't work with unarmed strikes. Likewise, having a natural weapon is not a substitute for the Improved Unarmed Strike feat. For example, you don't meet the Improved Unarmed Strike prerequisite for the Deflect Arrows feat if you just have a natural weapon.Monk Unarmed Strike Class Feature

The monk class offers a potent subcategory of unarmed attack. The class provides Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat, but the monk class offers some additional benefits for when fighting without weapons:

* A monk's unarmed strikes can be treated as either manufactured or natural weapons when applying spells or effects that enhance either manufactured or natural weapons. For example, either a magic weapon spell or a magic fang spell can enhance a monk's unarmed attacks.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070327a
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070403a
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a
HyperFreak
11-05-07, 12:04 PM Nezumi and hengeyoukai from Oriental adventures have natural attacks (the hengeyoukai seem to get them only in their animal shapes, though - I thought they had them in hybrid shape as well), and the 3.5 OA conversion in Dragon 318 removes the racial LA for hengeyoukai.

Hengeyokai are +1 LA
HyperFreak
11-05-07, 12:08 PM Erg, disregard the above post. I'd edit it, but my browser crash the three times I tried.
Rulebook
11-05-07, 04:24 PM some shifters have natural attacks too, at least for a little while iirc
Viatos
11-15-07, 03:41 AM Awakened Cats.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Suzaku455 10-06-07, 08:23 PM	I was thinking of having a rogue with natural attacks and sneak attack with them. But I don't want to spend the LA
Elemmakil 10-06-07, 08:54 PM	Off the top of my head? Warforged fit the bill. I'm sure that there are plenty more. -Elemmakil
El_Machinae 10-06-07, 09:30 PM	I'd greatly recommend the Kenku, then. But I might be biased, given who's the author of this thread on that topic. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=849156
Rustmonster 10-06-07, 09:31 PM	There is an article, don't know where, on the D&D site where kobolds get natural weapons.
DreamerInsane 10-07-07, 09:24 AM	Also, if you play a Silverbrow Human (Dragon Magic), you can use the bonus feat to take Shape Soulmeld (Magic of Incarnum) and select Dragon Claws (Dragon Magic) as your meld. The only trouble is that the claws would fizzle in an antimagic field.
The_Shaman 10-08-07, 09:09 AM	Nezumi and hengeyoukai from Oriental adventures have natural attacks (the hengeyoukai seem to get them only in their animal shapes, though - I thought they had them in hybrid shape as well), and the 3.5 OA conversion in Dragon 318 removes the racial LA for hengeyoukai.
JudgeK 10-08-07, 09:27 AM	There is at least one Anthropomorphic animal that has natural attacks (monkey is the one I recall), and there may be more. Got to love a monkey that uses grease a ton just for the jokes.
war_thog 10-08-07, 10:09 AM	Kenku make awesome rogues. And they get 2 claws. Damage is crap, but still, you wanted nat weps on LA +0 for a rogue. These guys are it, they get rogue as favoured, bonus dex, less str, have special abilities that favour being a rogue mimic voices is le cool :)
imakuni67 10-08-07, 12:14 PM	There is an article, don't know where, on the D&D site where kobolds get natural weapons. Can anyone find that?
RobbyPants 10-08-07, 12:47 PM	There is an article, don't know where, on the D&D site where kobolds get natural weapons. Can anyone find that? http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a) It's the first entry under "Variant Kobold Racial Traits"
natzero 10-08-07, 10:43 PM	KOBOLD !!!!!!!!! :) :) :) wizards has kobold with 2 1d3 claws listed here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060127a kobold so own lol
runestar 10-08-07, 10:45 PM	Humans can take the deformity feats at 1st lv and get claws as well.
war_thog 10-09-07, 09:35 AM	I looked at that link and im not seeing kobolds with claws on it. Just traps and paragon. Did I miss something?
gullas 10-09-07, 09:40 AM	shifters , when shifting as I can recall....
InkBlot 10-09-07, 09:44 AM	Darfellan (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050805a&page=2), inuit/orca-themed people from Stormwrack, get a 1d6 bite attack.
RobbyPants 10-09-07, 10:24 AM	I looked at that link and im not seeing kobolds with claws on it. Just traps and paragon. Did I miss something? Are you talking about my link or natzero's link? In my link, it's the first entry under "variant kobold racial traits", like I said... ...in bold red :P
natzero 10-09-07, 08:11 PM	<Originally Posted by war_thog View Post I looked at that link and im not seeing kobolds with claws on it. Just traps and paragon. Did I miss something?> its another click into the link. under "playing to their strengths" its under paragon's weapon/armor prof
snakeman830 10-13-07, 09:33 PM	Off the top of my head: Warforged (MM3) Drafellen (Stormwrack) Nezumi (Oriental Adventures) Hengoaki (animal form only, Oriental Adventures) Skaarj (Magic of Incarnum, I think I got the race name correct) That's all I've seen for LA+0 races.
calronmoonflower 10-13-07, 11:07 PM	Improved Unarmed Strike lets you do this.
Spiritwalker 10-25-07, 06:53 AM	dragonborn anything for a breath weapon (or wings, or senses, but both can be bought through feats so breath weapon remains the best choice.)
The_Shaman 10-25-07, 07:31 AM	I think you can buy a breath weapon, it's one of the grafts in Races of the Dragon - it's actually pretty good, 6d8 every 1d4 rounds. Actually, the book also has grafts that give you a tail and a claw attack.
Bahumut 10-25-07, 10:01 AM	i remember CustServ saying that the natural attacks from the WE for kobolds arent a variant, they are overruling errata. everything else is optional though.
Orenmir 10-25-07, 01:16 PM	Improved Unarmed Strike lets you do this. You have to be a Monk in order for your fists/knees/elbows/feet/forehead/body to be considered natural weapons. IUS by itself won't do it. Dabble in Psionics, probably PsyWar. There are plenty of powers that grant and augment claws. So, to more properly answer your original question... Any race can have natural attacks.
zook1shoe666 10-29-07, 01:12 AM	the "variant" kobold is definitely the BEST rogue possibility.
Bahumut 10-30-07, 12:00 PM	the "variant" kobold is definitely the BEST rogue possibility. im inclined to agree, since slight build not only gives them another +4 to their hide check, but they can count as tiny to occupy a medium sized creature's space and use the "confound the bigfolk" feats =D and thats just the tip of the Icingdeath-berg =D
blade265 11-05-07, 06:27 AM	You have to be a Monk in order for your fists/knees/elbows/feet/forehead/body to be considered natural weapons. IUS by itself won't do it. The monks unarmed strike is considered a natural weapon only for the purpose of applying spells or effects that enhance either manufactured or natural weapons Unarmed Strikes and Natural Weaponry Before we move on, it's worth pointing out that a character making an unarmed attack, even with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, does not have natural weapons. Nor is a natural weapon a substitute for the Improved Unarmed Strike feat. As we saw in Part One, unarmed strikes allow iterative attacks and natural weapons do not. A feat that requires natural weaponry as a prerequisite, such as Multiattack, doesn't work with unarmed strikes. Likewise, having a natural weapon is not a substitute for the Improved Unarmed Strike feat. For example, you don't meet the Improved Unarmed Strike prerequisite for the Deflect Arrows feat if you just have a natural weapon.Monk Unarmed Strike Class Feature The monk class offers a potent subcategory of unarmed attack. The class provides Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat, but the monk class offers some additional benefits for when fighting without weapons: * A monk's unarmed strikes can be treated as either manufactured or natural weapons when applying spells or effects that enhance either manufactured or natural weapons. For example, either a magic weapon spell or a magic fang spell can enhance a monk's unarmed attacks. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070327a http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070403a http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a
HyperFreak 11-05-07, 12:04 PM	Nezumi and hengeyoukai from Oriental adventures have natural attacks (the hengeyoukai seem to get them only in their animal shapes, though - I thought they had them in hybrid shape as well), and the 3.5 OA conversion in Dragon 318 removes the racial LA for hengeyoukai. Hengeyokai are +1 LA
HyperFreak 11-05-07, 12:08 PM	Erg, disregard the above post. I'd edit it, but my browser crash the three times I tried.
Rulebook 11-05-07, 04:24 PM	some shifters have natural attacks too, at least for a little while iirc
Viatos 11-15-07, 03:41 AM	Awakened Cats.