Are there any races with Int bonus [Archive] - Wizards Community

Are there any races with Int bonus [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ferreon
03-28-07, 04:13 PM other than Grey elf?

I'm playing a wizard (obviously) and therefore I don't really want a race with LA greater than +0 though I'll take LA+1 if there are other goodies as well.

I'd rather not suck up the Con penalty of the elf unless I have no other choice, as the campaign is horror themed and I may need to run away a lot.
Spikes01k
03-28-07, 06:42 PM You could try the Lesser Plane touched. The Tiefling give a bonus to Int.
Morwen
03-28-07, 06:43 PM Deep Imaskari from the Underdark book also has a bonus to INT for +0 LA.
lint trap
03-28-07, 06:56 PM Fraal from d20 Future gives you +4 to Int at +0 LA.
Saraqual
03-29-07, 01:38 AM the vanara from oriental adventures gets a +2 int +2 wis for a +0 LA
AZNsupermarket
03-29-07, 07:16 AM the vanara from oriental adventures gets a +2 int +2 wis for a +0 LA

If you use the 3.5 dragon magazine update of oriental adventures, they no longer gain any int or wis bonus.

I usually have a cut and paste list of races with bonus to int +0 LA, but due to wotc's recent website reformatting, I can't seem to find it. I will try to do it from memory:

Fire Elf
Grey Elf
Sun Elf
Deep Imiriski (spelling?)
Lesser Fire Genasi
Lesser Tiefling
Lesser Air Genasi
Tinker Gnome
Venerable Dragonwrout Kobold
Character with higher age category...
AZNsupermarket
03-29-07, 07:21 AM other than Grey elf?

I'm playing a wizard (obviously) and therefore I don't really want a race with LA greater than +0 though I'll take LA+1 if there are other goodies as well.

I'd rather not suck up the Con penalty of the elf unless I have no other choice, as the campaign is horror themed and I may need to run away a lot.

I have the perfect suggestion for you! Play a Dragonborn of Bahamut Gray Elf. Dragonborn are found in Race of The Dragon. You would have +2 int -2 str, which would make you a kick-ass wizard! :)
goawayugh
03-29-07, 01:40 PM I almost always play spellcasters, and always start middle aged. +1 to all mental, -1 to all physical.....well worth it for a caster!
Shado
03-29-07, 02:35 PM There's always the Blue from XPH. (Not worth an LA +1 though. They're completely an LA 0.)
Lamorake
03-29-07, 03:28 PM Out of curiosity, where can the Grey Elf be found in v3.5? I can't seem to find the book with that race.
AZNsupermarket
03-29-07, 04:25 PM Out of curiosity, where can the Grey Elf be found in v3.5? I can't seem to find the book with that race.

monster manual in the section under elves. Keep in mind that the +2 int -2 str is IN ADDITION to the +2 dex -2 con most elves gain.
EternalWizard
03-29-07, 07:03 PM I'm playing a wizard (obviously) and therefore I don't really want a race with LA greater than +0 though I'll take LA+1 if there are other goodies as well.

i 'm not going to suggest another race, just a tip that might be handy

u say u dont want to have any LA because u r a wizard. when it comes to races with races with LA +1 or +2 it's really good to reduce the LA by paying an XP cost at specific levels (Unearthed Arcana). off coarce u advance a little slower at the beginning but afterwards it's much easier for you than it is for a player that has the same LA as you but didn't reduce his char's LA

if your LA is +2 the hard part is up to lvl 13 and then u advance much easier
if your LA is +1 the hard part is only until u get level 5!! its really nice for the player
Yadot
03-29-07, 08:54 PM There is also the:
Silvanesti
Lesser Air Genasi
Leser Tiefling
Spikes01k
03-30-07, 08:00 AM monster manual in the section under elves. Keep in mind that the +2 int -2 str is IN ADDITION to the +2 dex -2 con most elves gain.

You know for some reason all the people in one of my gaming groups insist, or are playing it, where it is instead of the -2 con +2 dex. Is there any official statements I can bring them sense they are willfully making themselves ignorant of the rules?
Garonak
03-30-07, 09:49 AM You know for some reason all the people in one of my gaming groups insist, or are playing it, where it is instead of the -2 con +2 dex. Is there any official statements I can bring them sense they are willfully making themselves ignorant of the rules?

It quite clearly says so in the Gray elf section "These traits are in addition to the high elf traits".

Addition, not instead or replaces.
Argaud
03-30-07, 09:58 AM I almost always play spellcasters, and always start middle aged. +1 to all mental, -1 to all physical.....well worth it for a caster!
Nope. It is +1 to all mental and -2 to all physical. (PHB page 109).

Given the OP wants a good Con score, this is not good. Unless he is playing a dragonwrought kobold, of course. Dragons do not lose physical abilities as they age :D
ferreon
03-30-07, 02:09 PM ok. I should have said this earlier

books I own, are
PHB 1
PHB 2
DMG 1
DMG 2
MM 1
MM 2
Fiend Folio
Complete Warrior
Complete Adventurer
Miniatures Handbook
Stormwrack
Magic of Incarnum
Tome of Battle
Tome of Magic
Expanded Psionics Handbook
Fiendish Codex 1: Hordes of the Abyss
Fiendish Codex 2: Tyrants of the Nine Hells
Planar Handbook
Manual of the Planes
Lords of Madness
Libris Mortis
Draconomicon
Deities and Demigods
Weapons of Legacy
Zaistars69
03-30-07, 02:33 PM It quite clearly says so in the Gray elf section "These traits are in addition to the high elf traits".

Addition, not instead or replaces.

yea the only one that is different is the wild elf that say "these scores replace the high elves adjustments."
Threefists
04-06-07, 06:36 AM I know it's not a book you own, but the Sharakim (SP) from the "Races of Destiny" book are a Orc-Like race with the Human Subtype that have some nifty little abilities....and their stats are +2 Str -2 Dex +2 Int -2 Cha. Also, their favoured class is Wizard.
Maraxus
04-06-07, 08:15 AM Wow, this is only the 3rd thread within 1 month - sure felt like 10 (probably because there are 3-4 threads with exactly this question every month)

LA 0 with an Int bonus
No ECL +int races

Just the last 2
AMGriffin
04-06-07, 01:48 PM I remember one issue of Dragon Magazine had Arcane Gnomes which were more or less regular gnomes with +2 Intelligence, -2 Wisdom added to their racial traits.

an INT and CON bonus at LA+0? Sounds like a good wizard.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ferreon 03-28-07, 04:13 PM	other than Grey elf? I'm playing a wizard (obviously) and therefore I don't really want a race with LA greater than +0 though I'll take LA+1 if there are other goodies as well. I'd rather not suck up the Con penalty of the elf unless I have no other choice, as the campaign is horror themed and I may need to run away a lot.
Spikes01k 03-28-07, 06:42 PM	You could try the Lesser Plane touched. The Tiefling give a bonus to Int.
Morwen 03-28-07, 06:43 PM	Deep Imaskari from the Underdark book also has a bonus to INT for +0 LA.
lint trap 03-28-07, 06:56 PM	Fraal from d20 Future gives you +4 to Int at +0 LA.
Saraqual 03-29-07, 01:38 AM	the vanara from oriental adventures gets a +2 int +2 wis for a +0 LA
AZNsupermarket 03-29-07, 07:16 AM	the vanara from oriental adventures gets a +2 int +2 wis for a +0 LA If you use the 3.5 dragon magazine update of oriental adventures, they no longer gain any int or wis bonus. I usually have a cut and paste list of races with bonus to int +0 LA, but due to wotc's recent website reformatting, I can't seem to find it. I will try to do it from memory: Fire Elf Grey Elf Sun Elf Deep Imiriski (spelling?) Lesser Fire Genasi Lesser Tiefling Lesser Air Genasi Tinker Gnome Venerable Dragonwrout Kobold Character with higher age category...
AZNsupermarket 03-29-07, 07:21 AM	other than Grey elf? I'm playing a wizard (obviously) and therefore I don't really want a race with LA greater than +0 though I'll take LA+1 if there are other goodies as well. I'd rather not suck up the Con penalty of the elf unless I have no other choice, as the campaign is horror themed and I may need to run away a lot. I have the perfect suggestion for you! Play a Dragonborn of Bahamut Gray Elf. Dragonborn are found in Race of The Dragon. You would have +2 int -2 str, which would make you a kick-ass wizard! :)
goawayugh 03-29-07, 01:40 PM	I almost always play spellcasters, and always start middle aged. +1 to all mental, -1 to all physical.....well worth it for a caster!
Shado 03-29-07, 02:35 PM	There's always the Blue from XPH. (Not worth an LA +1 though. They're completely an LA 0.)
Lamorake 03-29-07, 03:28 PM	Out of curiosity, where can the Grey Elf be found in v3.5? I can't seem to find the book with that race.
AZNsupermarket 03-29-07, 04:25 PM	Out of curiosity, where can the Grey Elf be found in v3.5? I can't seem to find the book with that race. monster manual in the section under elves. Keep in mind that the +2 int -2 str is IN ADDITION to the +2 dex -2 con most elves gain.
EternalWizard 03-29-07, 07:03 PM	I'm playing a wizard (obviously) and therefore I don't really want a race with LA greater than +0 though I'll take LA+1 if there are other goodies as well. i 'm not going to suggest another race, just a tip that might be handy u say u dont want to have any LA because u r a wizard. when it comes to races with races with LA +1 or +2 it's really good to reduce the LA by paying an XP cost at specific levels (Unearthed Arcana). off coarce u advance a little slower at the beginning but afterwards it's much easier for you than it is for a player that has the same LA as you but didn't reduce his char's LA if your LA is +2 the hard part is up to lvl 13 and then u advance much easier if your LA is +1 the hard part is only until u get level 5!! its really nice for the player
Yadot 03-29-07, 08:54 PM	There is also the: Silvanesti Lesser Air Genasi Leser Tiefling
Spikes01k 03-30-07, 08:00 AM	monster manual in the section under elves. Keep in mind that the +2 int -2 str is IN ADDITION to the +2 dex -2 con most elves gain. You know for some reason all the people in one of my gaming groups insist, or are playing it, where it is instead of the -2 con +2 dex. Is there any official statements I can bring them sense they are willfully making themselves ignorant of the rules?
Garonak 03-30-07, 09:49 AM	You know for some reason all the people in one of my gaming groups insist, or are playing it, where it is instead of the -2 con +2 dex. Is there any official statements I can bring them sense they are willfully making themselves ignorant of the rules? It quite clearly says so in the Gray elf section "These traits are in addition to the high elf traits". Addition, not instead or replaces.
Argaud 03-30-07, 09:58 AM	I almost always play spellcasters, and always start middle aged. +1 to all mental, -1 to all physical.....well worth it for a caster! Nope. It is +1 to all mental and -2 to all physical. (PHB page 109). Given the OP wants a good Con score, this is not good. Unless he is playing a dragonwrought kobold, of course. Dragons do not lose physical abilities as they age :D
ferreon 03-30-07, 02:09 PM	ok. I should have said this earlier books I own, are PHB 1 PHB 2 DMG 1 DMG 2 MM 1 MM 2 Fiend Folio Complete Warrior Complete Adventurer Miniatures Handbook Stormwrack Magic of Incarnum Tome of Battle Tome of Magic Expanded Psionics Handbook Fiendish Codex 1: Hordes of the Abyss Fiendish Codex 2: Tyrants of the Nine Hells Planar Handbook Manual of the Planes Lords of Madness Libris Mortis Draconomicon Deities and Demigods Weapons of Legacy
Zaistars69 03-30-07, 02:33 PM	It quite clearly says so in the Gray elf section "These traits are in addition to the high elf traits". Addition, not instead or replaces. yea the only one that is different is the wild elf that say "these scores replace the high elves adjustments."
Threefists 04-06-07, 06:36 AM	I know it's not a book you own, but the Sharakim (SP) from the "Races of Destiny" book are a Orc-Like race with the Human Subtype that have some nifty little abilities....and their stats are +2 Str -2 Dex +2 Int -2 Cha. Also, their favoured class is Wizard.
Maraxus 04-06-07, 08:15 AM	Wow, this is only the 3rd thread within 1 month - sure felt like 10 (probably because there are 3-4 threads with exactly this question every month) LA 0 with an Int bonus No ECL +int races Just the last 2
AMGriffin 04-06-07, 01:48 PM	I remember one issue of Dragon Magazine had Arcane Gnomes which were more or less regular gnomes with +2 Intelligence, -2 Wisdom added to their racial traits. an INT and CON bonus at LA+0? Sounds like a good wizard.