Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Conchobaer 11-28-07, 09:17 AM	Hello, I am going to be playing in a low-level cityscape campaign soon as a bard, and I cannot find a good low level adjustment race that increases charisma. The lowest official class I can find is the drow which is a +2 ECL and +2 charisma. Can anyone think of another race or perhaps a better race. Signed, Conchobaer
Narthon 11-28-07, 09:44 AM	Hello, I am going to be playing in a low-level cityscape campaign soon as a bard, and I cannot find a good low level adjustment race that increases charisma. The lowest official class I can find is the drow which is a +2 ECL and +2 charisma. Can anyone think of another race or perhaps a better race. Signed, Conchobaer Spell scale out of races of the dragon gives +2 charisma with no LA.
Conchobaer 11-28-07, 10:27 AM	Hello, Interesting Narthon *stroking beard*, can you think of any others? Or does anyone else have an answer to my situation? Signed, Conchobaer
Essex 11-28-07, 11:40 AM	Catfolk (Races of the Wild) have +2 Charisma, +4 Dexterity, +1 natural armor, low-light vision, and a +2 to 2 skills for an LA of +1. Aasimar also increase Charisma with an LA of +1.
DreamerInsane 11-28-07, 04:13 PM	Lesser Aasimar (Player's Guide to Faerun) have LA +0. Also, Star Elves have a +2 to CHA. Primordial Half-Giant and the White Dragonspawn template are also workable, if somewhat (in the first case) or very (in the latter one) cheesy.
Essex 11-28-07, 06:56 PM	Monster Manual V has an LA +1 fey race with no racial HD, a +2 to charisma, an immunity to enchantments, and a bonus when casting enchantments. They're also fairly likely to hang around non-fey since they seem to be in some sort of self imposed exile from the faery courts.
Conchobaer 11-28-07, 07:05 PM	Hello, What race is that? I do not have Monster Manual 5. Signed, Conchobaer
Essex 11-28-07, 08:39 PM	Hello, What race is that? I do not have Monster Manual 5. Signed, Conchobaer I don't have it either. I saw the race today while thumbing through the book at the store. I think the name starts with a 'J'. I looked at the front of the book, where there was a table of Monsters by ECL. It was one of the ones with an LA of 1.
snakeman830 11-28-07, 08:51 PM	Increasing the age will boost the charisma on any race.
Conchobaer 11-28-07, 11:51 PM	Hello, While that may be, the negatives of increasing your age rating are greater than the benefits. You lose more points than you gain at each interval. Signed, Conchobaer
The_Shaman 11-29-07, 07:36 AM	The draconic template gives +2 to strength, constitution and charisma for a +1 to the LA. Also iirc Fiend Folio has the Feytouched (-2 con +2 cha) at +1 and the half-fey (er, -2 con +2 int +4 cha and maybe +2 to one other stat, as well as a slew of spell-likes and other powers), both being great RP races for a bard.
Xiuhcoatl 11-29-07, 07:52 AM	While that may be, the negatives of increasing your age rating are greater than the benefits. You lose more points than you gain at each interval. Play a venerable Dragonwrought Kobold, then. They get no aging penalties. Merfolk are also nice: Dex +2, Con +2, Cha +2 ... Speed: 5ft., Swim 50ft. LA +1.
Conchobaer 11-29-07, 08:58 AM	Hello, Where did you find the dragonwrought kobold? Signed, Conchobaer
Essex 11-29-07, 12:47 PM	Where did you find the dragonwrought kobold? Races of the Dragon has a feat called Dragonwrought (page 100). It can only be taken by level 1 Kobolds and changes their type from Humanoid (dragonblood) to Dragon. Furthermore, the kobold Aging Effects table (page 39) indicates that dragonwrought kobolds do not take ability penalties for aging.
JLaurHughes 11-29-07, 01:04 PM	Hello, What race is that? I do not have Monster Manual 5. Signed, Conchobaer I don't have it either. I saw the race today while thumbing through the book at the store. I think the name starts with a 'J'. I looked at the front of the book, where there was a table of Monsters by ECL. It was one of the ones with an LA of 1. It's called a Jaebrin, it's a decent race, I suggest picking up the MMV just for that race, if not for some of the encounters available.
Ecalsneerg 11-29-07, 01:34 PM	Dromite is LA +1, has +2 Cha, -2 Str and -2 Wis, and have a nifty Small size and +3 natural armour. It's also in both the XPH and the SRD.
Conchobaer 11-29-07, 01:58 PM	Hello, The Dragonwroght feat says nothing about not taking age penalties. Signed, Conchobaer
EvilVegan 11-29-07, 02:06 PM	Hello, The Dragonwroght feat says nothing about not taking age penalties. Signed, ConchobaerBut the rules on kobold age categories do, they're in a different section. It's somewhat of a loophole, but it is completely legal.
Essex 11-29-07, 02:24 PM	The Dragonwroght feat says nothing about not taking age penalties. That's why I mentioned the table on page 39. One of the footnotes specifically mentions the lack of penalties.
teamfireyleader 11-29-07, 02:34 PM	May i suggest that you create your own? then you could balance it as you see fit (+2 to perform checks +2 cha + 2 int - 2 str)
Conchobaer 11-29-07, 03:36 PM	Hello, I missed the reference to page 39, and while I would like to create my own race and that would be simpler, it is not my world and I do not want to dink around with someone else's world. Otherwise, that would be a good idea. Signed, Conchobaer
snakeman830 11-30-07, 07:51 PM	If you can get your hands on Dieties and Demigods, the Olympian pantheon has what you are probably looking for. Fauns have a bonus to perform, higher save DC's when the use magical instruments, and (i believe) a bonus to Charisma, but I'm really not sure on point #3. Favored class: Bard LA:+0 (I think, there isn't actually one listed because its a 3.0 book. I wouldn't give them an LA.)
YamiShinobi 12-01-07, 01:40 AM	Hello, What race is that? I do not have Monster Manual 5. Signed, Conchobaer Jaebrins +2 charisma -2 strength favored class beguiler, they also have a +1 luck bonus to ac as well as a will sapping bite