Best race for Monk [Archive] - Wizards Community

Best race for Monk [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Xinha
07-15-07, 07:32 PM What's the best race for the monk class?:)
Candin
07-15-07, 07:36 PM Thri-Kreen
jokey665
07-15-07, 08:01 PM Thri-Kreen

This is the correct answer to every question involving good races.
malak92
07-16-07, 10:11 AM Yea...im sorry to upset you but someone has already created a thread involving the same question with alot of player feed back. Please check more carefully before posting a new thread.
It saves yourself the time and effort of putting one up yourself.
PalyLeto
07-16-07, 03:12 PM here ya go friend
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=875011
Jaxgaret
07-16-07, 10:18 PM here ya go friend
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=875011

I read the entire first page of that thread.

They hadn't yet hit on the correct answer: Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale, from Savage Species.

It's hands down the best Monk race, and is darn good for pretty much any melee character.
Smite-Mo-Tron
07-16-07, 11:44 PM I'm sorry, but the answer is clearly the Half-Dragon Tauric Thri-Kreen Giant Octopus.
Aleolus
07-16-07, 11:50 PM This is the correct answer to every question involving good races.

Actually, no. Thrii-Kreen are good at most things, and a racial +30 on jump checks will help most anything, but they are not the best race for every class. Any class based off Charisma, such as Paladin, Sorcerer, and Favored Soul, Thrii-Kreen are not so hot with.
WolfHati
07-17-07, 03:37 AM I would have to go with plain old human. No LA, no drawbacks, extra feat.
skydin
07-17-07, 03:44 AM i would go with the albananbolynisiphusianisans. tehy havent been made yet, but in 35 yrs your ALL want one. they have TENTACLES!!!!!
DM Zoc
07-17-07, 04:06 AM Half-orc is pretty nice. One of the few situations where a half-orc outshines the orc.
Jungingen
07-17-07, 06:41 AM Any race with the Asthmatic template added.
The_Shaman
07-17-07, 07:26 AM What's the best race for the monk class?:)

If you have to go by the Player's handbook, human or dwarf, possibly half-orc. If you are allowed anything without LA or HD, Neraph and Buomman get quite handy, too. LA-endowed options include Githzerai, half-minotaur, draconic, half-dragon, half-ogre, goliath, and a ton of others. Thri-kreen and a few others are when you are allowed both monster races and LA, which some DM are not happy with.
Steely_Dan
07-17-07, 07:32 AM Thri-Kreen

18th level thri-kreen monk (2 monstrous humanoid HD) with Greater Multi-Weapon Fighting, Multiattack and a 10 Str:

Full Attack Unarmed strike +13/+13/+13/+8/+3 with flurry of blows and kama +13/+8/+3 and kama +13/+8/+3 and kama +13/+8/+3 and bite +13

15 attacks per round.
The_Shaman
07-17-07, 07:59 AM Is there any time when you say "I do a full attack" and the gaming table doesn't let out a collective groan?
Steely_Dan
07-17-07, 08:10 AM Is there any time when you say "I do a full attack" and the gaming table doesn't let out a collective groan?

Believe me, I would never actually use this build in game, because as you said, I wouldn't want everyone to be able to finish a novella in the time it takes me to resolve a full attack.

Actually, my group has gone so far as to port over many of the changes from Saga to our fortnightly D&D (Planescape) campaign, and one of the changes is no iterative attacks – everyone loves it.
OgreMonk
07-17-07, 08:33 AM Thri-Kreen

Maybe the best race if you want your DM to bounce a coffee mug off of your forehead.
Steely_Dan
07-17-07, 09:29 AM Maybe the best race if you want your DM to bounce a coffee mug off of your forehead.

"I'm sorry, I wasn't listening…"

*hurls coffee mug at forehead*

"Ow, you fascist!"
Xinha
07-18-07, 12:10 PM I was thinking about a race without LA. It sometimes it doesn't pay off.
Jaxgaret
07-18-07, 01:06 PM I was thinking about a race without LA. It sometimes it doesn't pay off.

Half-Orc: +2 Str is good compensation for a Monk's medium BAB and the -2 Int/Cha doesn't matter much to a Monk.

Human and Wood Elf are good too.
Krusk
07-18-07, 01:27 PM I am partial to the half-ogre for my monks. Large size and huge str bonus can help out a bit. As does natural armor.
AMGriffin
07-18-07, 02:35 PM Half-ogre monks are the best grapplers ever.

If you want LA+0, humans are a good choice. Half-orcs aren't half-bad either, surprisingly enough.
Propane
07-19-07, 12:05 AM I'd personally go with Githzerai for reasons that probably aren't good enough to count as the "best" but are good enough that it'd probably be better than most others.
cmd_camma
07-19-07, 08:19 AM I have been working on a Raptoran Monk 11/Stormtalon 9 - think precision bomb.

No bonuses to ability scores but high land and air speed, foot talon attack may be considered tas an unarmed attack... and with Monk's Tattoos can fly about 130ft a round... yeah... did I mention high air speed?
Peregrine_Wolf
07-19-07, 06:56 PM I have been working on a Raptoran Monk 11/Stormtalon 9 - think precision bomb.

No bonuses to ability scores but high land and air speed, foot talon attack may be considered tas an unarmed attack... and with Monk's Tattoos can fly about 130ft a round... yeah... did I mention high air speed?

YES! Someone uses the Stormtalon PrC. I think it is great but most people I've played with never even consider it. On topic......in one of my campaigns, one of my players is playing a monk. Kinda complex, but it is so far Catfolk Fighter2/Sorc2/Monk2/Dragon Disciple 7. He enjoys the fact that his lowest save is something like +16(Fort.) and he is really hard to kill. 33 AC, +14 Init., and a Cloak of Minor Displacement are some of his favourite parts. Not very great damage output though, although he does have his unarmed attacks enchanted with wounding......
Propane
07-19-07, 09:27 PM Get your GM drunk as hell, buy him a lapdance, loan him a PS3 (does't have to be yours :o) and convince him to let you play a Tarrasque Monk.

You'll need really really good alcohol...
tpierce104
07-21-07, 11:16 PM Awakened tree.

Yeah, I know it'd have decent Strength, no Constitution, low Dexterity and potentially horrific Wisdom, but ponder this:

Spruce Lee.

Who can resist this character name?
JimSorenson
07-22-07, 12:04 AM If you're playing in Eberron, Warforged make kick-ass monks. Their composite plating gives a +2 armor bonus, which can be further enchanted, but does not count as armor. The Battlefist (ECS) makes their unarmed attacks count as one size category larger. And with silver and/or cold iron tracery feats (Races of Eberron), you'll bypass DR like crazy. Your wisdom penalty means that you'll have bad DRs on your stunning fists / quivering palms, but it's a relatively small price to pay for your increased offensive/defensive capabilities.

(I like to play monks by dumping strength, taking weapon finesse and maxing dex. Losing a bit of damage is well worth the extra ac, reflex saves and initiative modifiers.)

Jim S
zook1shoe666
07-23-07, 12:25 PM Awakened tree.

Yeah, I know it'd have decent Strength, no Constitution, low Dexterity and potentially horrific Wisdom

ummm.... LIVING trees still have a Constitution score

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Xinha 07-15-07, 07:32 PM	What's the best race for the monk class?:)
Candin 07-15-07, 07:36 PM	Thri-Kreen
jokey665 07-15-07, 08:01 PM	Thri-Kreen This is the correct answer to every question involving good races.
malak92 07-16-07, 10:11 AM	Yea...im sorry to upset you but someone has already created a thread involving the same question with alot of player feed back. Please check more carefully before posting a new thread. It saves yourself the time and effort of putting one up yourself.
PalyLeto 07-16-07, 03:12 PM	here ya go friend http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=875011
Jaxgaret 07-16-07, 10:18 PM	here ya go friend http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=875011 I read the entire first page of that thread. They hadn't yet hit on the correct answer: Anthropomorphic Baleen Whale, from Savage Species. It's hands down the best Monk race, and is darn good for pretty much any melee character.
Smite-Mo-Tron 07-16-07, 11:44 PM	I'm sorry, but the answer is clearly the Half-Dragon Tauric Thri-Kreen Giant Octopus.
Aleolus 07-16-07, 11:50 PM	This is the correct answer to every question involving good races. Actually, no. Thrii-Kreen are good at most things, and a racial +30 on jump checks will help most anything, but they are not the best race for every class. Any class based off Charisma, such as Paladin, Sorcerer, and Favored Soul, Thrii-Kreen are not so hot with.
WolfHati 07-17-07, 03:37 AM	I would have to go with plain old human. No LA, no drawbacks, extra feat.
skydin 07-17-07, 03:44 AM	i would go with the albananbolynisiphusianisans. tehy havent been made yet, but in 35 yrs your ALL want one. they have TENTACLES!!!!!
DM Zoc 07-17-07, 04:06 AM	Half-orc is pretty nice. One of the few situations where a half-orc outshines the orc.
Jungingen 07-17-07, 06:41 AM	Any race with the Asthmatic template added.
The_Shaman 07-17-07, 07:26 AM	What's the best race for the monk class?:) If you have to go by the Player's handbook, human or dwarf, possibly half-orc. If you are allowed anything without LA or HD, Neraph and Buomman get quite handy, too. LA-endowed options include Githzerai, half-minotaur, draconic, half-dragon, half-ogre, goliath, and a ton of others. Thri-kreen and a few others are when you are allowed both monster races and LA, which some DM are not happy with.
Steely_Dan 07-17-07, 07:32 AM	Thri-Kreen 18th level thri-kreen monk (2 monstrous humanoid HD) with Greater Multi-Weapon Fighting, Multiattack and a 10 Str: Full Attack Unarmed strike +13/+13/+13/+8/+3 with flurry of blows and kama +13/+8/+3 and kama +13/+8/+3 and kama +13/+8/+3 and bite +13 15 attacks per round.
The_Shaman 07-17-07, 07:59 AM	Is there any time when you say "I do a full attack" and the gaming table doesn't let out a collective groan?
Steely_Dan 07-17-07, 08:10 AM	Is there any time when you say "I do a full attack" and the gaming table doesn't let out a collective groan? Believe me, I would never actually use this build in game, because as you said, I wouldn't want everyone to be able to finish a novella in the time it takes me to resolve a full attack. Actually, my group has gone so far as to port over many of the changes from Saga to our fortnightly D&D (Planescape) campaign, and one of the changes is no iterative attacks – everyone loves it.
OgreMonk 07-17-07, 08:33 AM	Thri-Kreen Maybe the best race if you want your DM to bounce a coffee mug off of your forehead.
Steely_Dan 07-17-07, 09:29 AM	Maybe the best race if you want your DM to bounce a coffee mug off of your forehead. "I'm sorry, I wasn't listening…" hurls coffee mug at forehead "Ow, you fascist!"
Xinha 07-18-07, 12:10 PM	I was thinking about a race without LA. It sometimes it doesn't pay off.
Jaxgaret 07-18-07, 01:06 PM	I was thinking about a race without LA. It sometimes it doesn't pay off. Half-Orc: +2 Str is good compensation for a Monk's medium BAB and the -2 Int/Cha doesn't matter much to a Monk. Human and Wood Elf are good too.
Krusk 07-18-07, 01:27 PM	I am partial to the half-ogre for my monks. Large size and huge str bonus can help out a bit. As does natural armor.
AMGriffin 07-18-07, 02:35 PM	Half-ogre monks are the best grapplers ever. If you want LA+0, humans are a good choice. Half-orcs aren't half-bad either, surprisingly enough.
Propane 07-19-07, 12:05 AM	I'd personally go with Githzerai for reasons that probably aren't good enough to count as the "best" but are good enough that it'd probably be better than most others.
cmd_camma 07-19-07, 08:19 AM	I have been working on a Raptoran Monk 11/Stormtalon 9 - think precision bomb. No bonuses to ability scores but high land and air speed, foot talon attack may be considered tas an unarmed attack... and with Monk's Tattoos can fly about 130ft a round... yeah... did I mention high air speed?
Peregrine_Wolf 07-19-07, 06:56 PM	I have been working on a Raptoran Monk 11/Stormtalon 9 - think precision bomb. No bonuses to ability scores but high land and air speed, foot talon attack may be considered tas an unarmed attack... and with Monk's Tattoos can fly about 130ft a round... yeah... did I mention high air speed? YES! Someone uses the Stormtalon PrC. I think it is great but most people I've played with never even consider it. On topic......in one of my campaigns, one of my players is playing a monk. Kinda complex, but it is so far Catfolk Fighter2/Sorc2/Monk2/Dragon Disciple 7. He enjoys the fact that his lowest save is something like +16(Fort.) and he is really hard to kill. 33 AC, +14 Init., and a Cloak of Minor Displacement are some of his favourite parts. Not very great damage output though, although he does have his unarmed attacks enchanted with wounding......
Propane 07-19-07, 09:27 PM	Get your GM drunk as hell, buy him a lapdance, loan him a PS3 (does't have to be yours :o) and convince him to let you play a Tarrasque Monk. You'll need really really good alcohol...
tpierce104 07-21-07, 11:16 PM	Awakened tree. Yeah, I know it'd have decent Strength, no Constitution, low Dexterity and potentially horrific Wisdom, but ponder this: Spruce Lee. Who can resist this character name?
JimSorenson 07-22-07, 12:04 AM	If you're playing in Eberron, Warforged make kick-ass monks. Their composite plating gives a +2 armor bonus, which can be further enchanted, but does not count as armor. The Battlefist (ECS) makes their unarmed attacks count as one size category larger. And with silver and/or cold iron tracery feats (Races of Eberron), you'll bypass DR like crazy. Your wisdom penalty means that you'll have bad DRs on your stunning fists / quivering palms, but it's a relatively small price to pay for your increased offensive/defensive capabilities. (I like to play monks by dumping strength, taking weapon finesse and maxing dex. Losing a bit of damage is well worth the extra ac, reflex saves and initiative modifiers.) Jim S
zook1shoe666 07-23-07, 12:25 PM	Awakened tree. Yeah, I know it'd have decent Strength, no Constitution, low Dexterity and potentially horrific Wisdom ummm.... LIVING trees still have a Constitution score