Catfolk only +1? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Catfolk only +1? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Stardust
03-12-07, 10:24 AM I've not really any experience of adjusting races or working out level adjustments, but to me the catfolk seem powerful for only a +1 LA.

Without any specifics, this is what they get:

+6 ability adjustments (including +4 to arguably the best stat)
Increased base speed
Low light vision
+2 to 2 useful skills
Natural armor bonus

There are no penalties really that I can see at all.

Does this seem a bit on the powerful side to some? Perhaps too much?
Tectorman
03-12-07, 10:38 AM Um, no. In terms of stats, Catfolk get bonuses and no penalties, but they're not overwhelming, nor are they overwhelming in number. Actually, the general opinion that I've seen (may differ on boards that I haven't visited) is that Catfolk are generally underpowered for an LA +1. In fact, according to the Yabba the What feature point system (which is useful, official or not), Catfolk come out at something like 19 points and the min for an LA +1 is 18 points (i.e., just barely making it). Catfolk would be overpowered for an LA +0, sure, but not an LA +1.
Actually, I'm working on a Catfolk remake (link in my sig, "New Races," the first one you come to) and I'm told that even with everything I added, it's still balanced for LA +1.

Although I've only had one person actually comment.
"Hey, don't just view, help me out!"

Anyway, I hope that helps.
Stardust
03-12-07, 10:41 AM Thanks for that!

Could you link me to the feature point system you mention?
YabaTheWhat
03-12-07, 01:36 PM Um, no. In terms of stats, Catfolk get bonuses and no penalties, but they're not overwhelming, nor are they overwhelming in number. Actually, the general opinion that I've seen (may differ on boards that I haven't visited) is that Catfolk are generally underpowered for an LA +1. In fact, according to the Yabba the What feature point system (which is useful, official or not), Catfolk come out at something like 19 points and the min for an LA +1 is 18 points (i.e., just barely making it). Catfolk would be overpowered for an LA +0, sure, but not an LA +1.
Actually, I'm working on a Catfolk remake (link in my sig, "New Races," the first one you come to) and I'm told that even with everything I added, it's still balanced for LA +1.

Although I've only had one person actually comment.
"Hey, don't just view, help me out!"

Anyway, I hope that helps. Catfolk came out as LA+1 balanced. 6FP for the land speed bonus, 16 FP total for their ability score bonuses, 6 FP for the natural armor, 1FP for low-light vision, and 2 FP for skill bonuses. Thanks for that!

Could you link me to the feature point system you mention? See my signature.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Stardust 03-12-07, 10:24 AM	I've not really any experience of adjusting races or working out level adjustments, but to me the catfolk seem powerful for only a +1 LA. Without any specifics, this is what they get: +6 ability adjustments (including +4 to arguably the best stat) Increased base speed Low light vision +2 to 2 useful skills Natural armor bonus There are no penalties really that I can see at all. Does this seem a bit on the powerful side to some? Perhaps too much?
Tectorman 03-12-07, 10:38 AM	Um, no. In terms of stats, Catfolk get bonuses and no penalties, but they're not overwhelming, nor are they overwhelming in number. Actually, the general opinion that I've seen (may differ on boards that I haven't visited) is that Catfolk are generally underpowered for an LA +1. In fact, according to the Yabba the What feature point system (which is useful, official or not), Catfolk come out at something like 19 points and the min for an LA +1 is 18 points (i.e., just barely making it). Catfolk would be overpowered for an LA +0, sure, but not an LA +1. Actually, I'm working on a Catfolk remake (link in my sig, "New Races," the first one you come to) and I'm told that even with everything I added, it's still balanced for LA +1. Although I've only had one person actually comment. "Hey, don't just view, help me out!" Anyway, I hope that helps.
Stardust 03-12-07, 10:41 AM	Thanks for that! Could you link me to the feature point system you mention?
YabaTheWhat 03-12-07, 01:36 PM	Um, no. In terms of stats, Catfolk get bonuses and no penalties, but they're not overwhelming, nor are they overwhelming in number. Actually, the general opinion that I've seen (may differ on boards that I haven't visited) is that Catfolk are generally underpowered for an LA +1. In fact, according to the Yabba the What feature point system (which is useful, official or not), Catfolk come out at something like 19 points and the min for an LA +1 is 18 points (i.e., just barely making it). Catfolk would be overpowered for an LA +0, sure, but not an LA +1. Actually, I'm working on a Catfolk remake (link in my sig, "New Races," the first one you come to) and I'm told that even with everything I added, it's still balanced for LA +1. Although I've only had one person actually comment. "Hey, don't just view, help me out!" Anyway, I hope that helps. Catfolk came out as LA+1 balanced. 6FP for the land speed bonus, 16 FP total for their ability score bonuses, 6 FP for the natural armor, 1FP for low-light vision, and 2 FP for skill bonuses. Thanks for that! Could you link me to the feature point system you mention? See my signature.