+Charisma LA0 races? [Archive] - Wizards Community

+Charisma LA0 races? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
jacobi289
06-12-07, 12:56 PM I'm looking for a race that has a racial bonus to charisma, but with no level adjustment.

Know of any?
JellyPooga
06-12-07, 12:57 PM Closest I know of is Catfolk or Aasimar, but they're +1 LA.
DrRufio
06-12-07, 12:59 PM Spellscales. they have +2 cha and -2 to something else (can't remember) and are LA0
The Crimson Dawn
06-12-07, 01:00 PM I believe that spellscales from races of the dragon book get +2 cha for a -2 in con. I do not own the book so you will need somebody to confirm that.
Crimson_Concerto
06-12-07, 01:02 PM This question definitely hasn't been asked like 20 billion times, and using the search function isn't going to help at all. :rolleyes:

There are a couple, but the most commonly used (and not broken) are the Spellscales (Races of the Dragon), Star Elves (Unaproachable East), and Hellbred (Fiendish Codex II). All give +2 CHA, -2 CON.
DrRufio
06-12-07, 01:11 PM This question definitely hasn't been asked like 20 billion times, and using the search function isn't going to help at all. :rolleyes:

But the post lets you flex your DnD nuts. Why would you want to miss that chance? :rolleyes:
jacobi289
06-12-07, 01:13 PM I would have used the search, but it's been disabled for as long as I can remember.

When was it turned back on?

And thanks for the relies so far.
trapspringer
06-12-07, 11:24 PM But the post lets you flex your DnD nuts. Why would you want to miss that chance? :rolleyes:

Nuts can be flexed?

Awesome!
Crimson_Concerto
06-12-07, 11:25 PM Nuts can be flexed?Yeah, that's what I was wondering? :rofl:
AZNsupermarket
06-13-07, 12:27 PM Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to charisma:

Star Elf: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., otherworldly touch (su), extraplanar (su), bard, humanoid (elf), unapproachable east pg.10

Spellscale: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., sorcerer and same as base creature, humanoid (dragonblood), races of the dragon pg.21

Hellbred (Spirit): +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft, hellbound (su), spirit (su), paladin, humanoid (hellbred), Fiendish Codex II pg.78

Lesser Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191

Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, dragon (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39

You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to cha (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ability adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these.

Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5

Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.
Braekor Dragonfang
06-13-07, 07:30 PM I don't think it would be a stretch to give half elves a charisma bonus, they seem to be geared toward that thought, what with the skill bonuses (plus it makes them less crappy when compared to their parents)
Lecen_of_Mitran
06-13-07, 07:49 PM Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to charisma:

Star Elf: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., otherworldly touch (su), extraplanar (su), bard, humanoid (elf), unapproachable east pg.10

Spellscale: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., sorcerer and same as base creature, humanoid (dragonblood), races of the dragon pg.21

Hellbred (Spirit): +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft, hellbound (su), spirit (su), paladin, humanoid (hellbred), Fiendish Codex II pg.78

Lesser Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191

Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, dragon (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39

You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to cha (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ability adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these.

Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5

Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.

Did you know that you´re not allowed to give these information?
glacialcat
06-13-07, 08:15 PM Yes you can... you just can't give enough information to play it on your own. He didn't give nearly enough information to play any of those races. For example, I have no idea what "otherwordly touch" is, so I can't play a Star Elf. He didn't give any information on the blood quickening meditations of the Spellscales, any information on the ritual required to become a Dragonborn, what any of the Hellbred's abilities are...

You can't play any of those races unless you own the book, at least not well... if anything he just posted information that'll get someone to buy a book, instead of stealing information from WotC. WotC should be thankful.
Nat_20
06-13-07, 08:15 PM He has posted that list(and longer ones at that) many times and i have never seen a complaint...

and he posted the only ones i could think of
bob_the_great
06-13-07, 08:40 PM *this isn't meant to be snooty, I just want to share this info*

re: searching

go to google, and click "advanced search"
under domain, enter "boards1.wizards.com"

you can now search the boards. it is great. i heart google.
Gabriel Knight52
06-13-07, 09:57 PM Gruwaar +2 Dex, +2 Cha, –2 Str, –2 Wis, small Fey, 20-30ft, darkvision 60, +2 Hide & MS & SoH, 2 Claw Atks, disguise self (sp) 1/dy CL1, FC: Rogue. (DR317 p25) :)

When I need a race with a specific ability adjustment I check here. (http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/)

Does anyone know where the "what you can/can't post" board rules are? Couldn't find them.
key
06-15-07, 03:55 AM When I need a race with a specific ability adjustment I check here. (http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/)

Cool. Thanks Gabriel.

Does anyone know where the "what you can/can't post" board rules are? Couldn't find them.

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=124488
JadeSpider9643
06-15-07, 12:22 PM *this isn't meant to be snooty, I just want to share this info*

re: searching

go to google, and click "advanced search"
under domain, enter "boards1.wizards.com"

you can now search the boards. it is great. i heart google.

OR...you could just scroll to the top of the forums and use the "Search" function.

Yup for those that hadn't noticed yet, it's Back!:w00t:
Kyrinthic
06-15-07, 12:44 PM In an awesome display of vagueness, the Cansin is a race from a dragon magazine that gives +2 charisma and +2 int (and a handful of other benefits), and can be used in a 'lesser' version as an optional rule from a forgotten realms book about lesser planetouched (like the lesser aaismar AZNsupermarket posted). Dont forget that lesser planetouched is an optional rule and you will need to check with your gm if its available.

I played one in a campaign around a year ago, (paid the ecl for it tho), was a fun race, basically chaotic planetouched.

Anyone who knows which dragon magazine the Cansin was in, or what book / page the lesser plantouched option rule is in (all I remember was it was one of the newer forgotten realms books), feel free to elaborate.

-Kyrinthic
mkill
06-15-07, 12:46 PM Of course there is always my Allurin (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=749491) race, for those who have neither seen it nor the last "+Charisma LA0" races thread.

Btw. a cloak of Charisma for a meager 4000 gp gives anyone a +2 bonus to Charisma.
MCage
06-15-07, 02:18 PM The Half Sayter from the Dangerous Denziens book i belive is +0 LA and has a +2 cha, i forget what its total stat adjust is

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
jacobi289 06-12-07, 12:56 PM	I'm looking for a race that has a racial bonus to charisma, but with no level adjustment. Know of any?
JellyPooga 06-12-07, 12:57 PM	Closest I know of is Catfolk or Aasimar, but they're +1 LA.
DrRufio 06-12-07, 12:59 PM	Spellscales. they have +2 cha and -2 to something else (can't remember) and are LA0
The Crimson Dawn 06-12-07, 01:00 PM	I believe that spellscales from races of the dragon book get +2 cha for a -2 in con. I do not own the book so you will need somebody to confirm that.
Crimson_Concerto 06-12-07, 01:02 PM	This question definitely hasn't been asked like 20 billion times, and using the search function isn't going to help at all. :rolleyes: There are a couple, but the most commonly used (and not broken) are the Spellscales (Races of the Dragon), Star Elves (Unaproachable East), and Hellbred (Fiendish Codex II). All give +2 CHA, -2 CON.
DrRufio 06-12-07, 01:11 PM	This question definitely hasn't been asked like 20 billion times, and using the search function isn't going to help at all. :rolleyes: But the post lets you flex your DnD nuts. Why would you want to miss that chance? :rolleyes:
jacobi289 06-12-07, 01:13 PM	I would have used the search, but it's been disabled for as long as I can remember. When was it turned back on? And thanks for the relies so far.
trapspringer 06-12-07, 11:24 PM	But the post lets you flex your DnD nuts. Why would you want to miss that chance? :rolleyes: Nuts can be flexed? Awesome!
Crimson_Concerto 06-12-07, 11:25 PM	Nuts can be flexed?Yeah, that's what I was wondering? :rofl:
AZNsupermarket 06-13-07, 12:27 PM	Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to charisma: Star Elf: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., otherworldly touch (su), extraplanar (su), bard, humanoid (elf), unapproachable east pg.10 Spellscale: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., sorcerer and same as base creature, humanoid (dragonblood), races of the dragon pg.21 Hellbred (Spirit): +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft, hellbound (su), spirit (su), paladin, humanoid (hellbred), Fiendish Codex II pg.78 Lesser Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191 Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, dragon (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39 You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to cha (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ability adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these. Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5 Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties.
Braekor Dragonfang 06-13-07, 07:30 PM	I don't think it would be a stretch to give half elves a charisma bonus, they seem to be geared toward that thought, what with the skill bonuses (plus it makes them less crappy when compared to their parents)
Lecen_of_Mitran 06-13-07, 07:49 PM	Here are all your choices from WOTC published material for +0 LA races that get a bonus to charisma: Star Elf: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., otherworldly touch (su), extraplanar (su), bard, humanoid (elf), unapproachable east pg.10 Spellscale: +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft., sorcerer and same as base creature, humanoid (dragonblood), races of the dragon pg.21 Hellbred (Spirit): +2 Cha -2 Con, medium, 30 ft, hellbound (su), spirit (su), paladin, humanoid (hellbred), Fiendish Codex II pg.78 Lesser Aasimar: +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191 Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold: -4 Str +2 Dex -2 Con +3 Int +3 Wis +3 Cha, small, 30 ft., sorcerer, dragon (kobold, reptilian, dragonblood), monter manual pg.161 and races of the dragon pg. 39 You can also add the Dragonborn of Bahamut pseudo-template without level adjustment to any of the races with a bonus to cha (beside the venerable dragonwrought kobold) and gain +2 con -2 dex, which stacks with your original ability adjustments. That may be helpful for a lot of these. Dragonborn: +2 Con -2 Dex, same as base creature, same as base creature, fighter and the base creatures, humanoid (dragonblood, same as base creature), races of the dragon pg.5 Other than that, you can just increase your age level and suffer the physical ability score penalties. Did you know that you´re not allowed to give these information?
glacialcat 06-13-07, 08:15 PM	Yes you can... you just can't give enough information to play it on your own. He didn't give nearly enough information to play any of those races. For example, I have no idea what "otherwordly touch" is, so I can't play a Star Elf. He didn't give any information on the blood quickening meditations of the Spellscales, any information on the ritual required to become a Dragonborn, what any of the Hellbred's abilities are... You can't play any of those races unless you own the book, at least not well... if anything he just posted information that'll get someone to buy a book, instead of stealing information from WotC. WotC should be thankful.
Nat_20 06-13-07, 08:15 PM	He has posted that list(and longer ones at that) many times and i have never seen a complaint... and he posted the only ones i could think of
bob_the_great 06-13-07, 08:40 PM	this isn't meant to be snooty, I just want to share this info re: searching go to google, and click "advanced search" under domain, enter "boards1.wizards.com" you can now search the boards. it is great. i heart google.
Gabriel Knight52 06-13-07, 09:57 PM	Gruwaar +2 Dex, +2 Cha, –2 Str, –2 Wis, small Fey, 20-30ft, darkvision 60, +2 Hide & MS & SoH, 2 Claw Atks, disguise self (sp) 1/dy CL1, FC: Rogue. (DR317 p25) :) When I need a race with a specific ability adjustment I check here. (http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/) Does anyone know where the "what you can/can't post" board rules are? Couldn't find them.
key 06-15-07, 03:55 AM	When I need a race with a specific ability adjustment I check here. (http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/) Cool. Thanks Gabriel. Does anyone know where the "what you can/can't post" board rules are? Couldn't find them. http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=124488
JadeSpider9643 06-15-07, 12:22 PM	this isn't meant to be snooty, I just want to share this info re: searching go to google, and click "advanced search" under domain, enter "boards1.wizards.com" you can now search the boards. it is great. i heart google. OR...you could just scroll to the top of the forums and use the "Search" function. Yup for those that hadn't noticed yet, it's Back!:w00t:
Kyrinthic 06-15-07, 12:44 PM	In an awesome display of vagueness, the Cansin is a race from a dragon magazine that gives +2 charisma and +2 int (and a handful of other benefits), and can be used in a 'lesser' version as an optional rule from a forgotten realms book about lesser planetouched (like the lesser aaismar AZNsupermarket posted). Dont forget that lesser planetouched is an optional rule and you will need to check with your gm if its available. I played one in a campaign around a year ago, (paid the ecl for it tho), was a fun race, basically chaotic planetouched. Anyone who knows which dragon magazine the Cansin was in, or what book / page the lesser plantouched option rule is in (all I remember was it was one of the newer forgotten realms books), feel free to elaborate. -Kyrinthic
mkill 06-15-07, 12:46 PM	Of course there is always my Allurin (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=749491) race, for those who have neither seen it nor the last "+Charisma LA0" races thread. Btw. a cloak of Charisma for a meager 4000 gp gives anyone a +2 bonus to Charisma.
MCage 06-15-07, 02:18 PM	The Half Sayter from the Dangerous Denziens book i belive is +0 LA and has a +2 cha, i forget what its total stat adjust is