Death-touched +0 LA [Archive] - Wizards Community

Death-touched +0 LA [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
GreyStar
04-10-07, 04:02 PM My player is playing twin sister death-touched from Dragon magazine.

They've got -2 Con, +2 Wis, +4 Cha

Darkvision to 60 ft
+2 to Intimidate and Move Silently
Resistance to electricity and cold 5
Chill touch 1/day caster level=hit dice/level
+1 LA

Now she's happy with the race and doesn't mind the LA, but I'm wondering if there's a way to adjust the race without removing the +4 Cha to get a +0 LA. I'm also wondering if there's a different spell to replace Chill Touch that won't overpower the +1 and has the same flavor. It just doesn't seem to be a very effective spell. Planetouched at least get useful tool-like spells.
Moosh Nailo
04-10-07, 07:12 PM I'd suggest dropping the Electricity resistance, and maybe the Chill touch. That should more than even it out.

I suggest electricity because it seems to be the least in-flavour with the idea (from what I understand).
zook1shoe666
04-11-07, 01:52 PM I'd say drop at least either one of the resistances and +4 to the mental stats, or both resistances and +2 to the mental stats.
GreyStar
04-11-07, 05:15 PM The flavor of the race is pretty much the same as planetouched except instead of an outsider she traces her lineage to an undead.
AMGriffin
04-11-07, 05:31 PM Turn it into a template.
GreyStar
04-11-07, 08:34 PM Turn it into a template.

How would that eliminate level adjustment?
Razorgrin
04-12-07, 05:20 PM Use the rules from Unearthed Arcana to remove the level adjustment. It's best if you do it at 3rd character level - costs you 1,000xp - but you qualify any time your character level is three times your level adjustment.
GreyStar
04-14-07, 08:19 AM Use the rules from Unearthed Arcana to remove the level adjustment. It's best if you do it at 3rd character level - costs you 1,000xp - but you qualify any time your character level is three times your level adjustment.

Dang, I've had this book a month and managed to miss that.
DEMONisbest
04-14-07, 10:36 AM Use the rules from Unearthed Arcana to remove the level adjustment. It's best if you do it at 3rd character level - costs you 1,000xp - but you qualify any time your character level is three times your level adjustment.

At lvl 3 it would be 2000 XP = (ECL-1) x 1000 XP
GreyStar
04-14-07, 09:09 PM At lvl 3 it would be 2000 XP = (ECL-1) x 1000 XP

Wouldn't it be 3000? Three class levels + level adjustment +1 = ECL 4.

Also, for kicks, if I did change up 'touched races to templates, would it still be worth a +1 LA, or would it boost it more?
the_great_mighty_nerd
04-15-07, 07:57 AM thats an overpowered race, there is absolutely no way to put a +4 into a mental stat without LA otherwise all the spell casters would play those. if you reduce the cha bonus to 2, lose the resistances and possibly chill touch and replace them with less powerful, more fluff-oriented abilities.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GreyStar 04-10-07, 04:02 PM	My player is playing twin sister death-touched from Dragon magazine. They've got -2 Con, +2 Wis, +4 Cha Darkvision to 60 ft +2 to Intimidate and Move Silently Resistance to electricity and cold 5 Chill touch 1/day caster level=hit dice/level +1 LA Now she's happy with the race and doesn't mind the LA, but I'm wondering if there's a way to adjust the race without removing the +4 Cha to get a +0 LA. I'm also wondering if there's a different spell to replace Chill Touch that won't overpower the +1 and has the same flavor. It just doesn't seem to be a very effective spell. Planetouched at least get useful tool-like spells.
Moosh Nailo 04-10-07, 07:12 PM	I'd suggest dropping the Electricity resistance, and maybe the Chill touch. That should more than even it out. I suggest electricity because it seems to be the least in-flavour with the idea (from what I understand).
zook1shoe666 04-11-07, 01:52 PM	I'd say drop at least either one of the resistances and +4 to the mental stats, or both resistances and +2 to the mental stats.
GreyStar 04-11-07, 05:15 PM	The flavor of the race is pretty much the same as planetouched except instead of an outsider she traces her lineage to an undead.
AMGriffin 04-11-07, 05:31 PM	Turn it into a template.
GreyStar 04-11-07, 08:34 PM	Turn it into a template. How would that eliminate level adjustment?
Razorgrin 04-12-07, 05:20 PM	Use the rules from Unearthed Arcana to remove the level adjustment. It's best if you do it at 3rd character level - costs you 1,000xp - but you qualify any time your character level is three times your level adjustment.
GreyStar 04-14-07, 08:19 AM	Use the rules from Unearthed Arcana to remove the level adjustment. It's best if you do it at 3rd character level - costs you 1,000xp - but you qualify any time your character level is three times your level adjustment. Dang, I've had this book a month and managed to miss that.
DEMONisbest 04-14-07, 10:36 AM	Use the rules from Unearthed Arcana to remove the level adjustment. It's best if you do it at 3rd character level - costs you 1,000xp - but you qualify any time your character level is three times your level adjustment. At lvl 3 it would be 2000 XP = (ECL-1) x 1000 XP
GreyStar 04-14-07, 09:09 PM	At lvl 3 it would be 2000 XP = (ECL-1) x 1000 XP Wouldn't it be 3000? Three class levels + level adjustment +1 = ECL 4. Also, for kicks, if I did change up 'touched races to templates, would it still be worth a +1 LA, or would it boost it more?
the_great_mighty_nerd 04-15-07, 07:57 AM	thats an overpowered race, there is absolutely no way to put a +4 into a mental stat without LA otherwise all the spell casters would play those. if you reduce the cha bonus to 2, lose the resistances and possibly chill touch and replace them with less powerful, more fluff-oriented abilities.