Devil Fruit Chronicles: Hana Hana no mi [Archive] - Wizards Community

Devil Fruit Chronicles: Hana Hana no mi [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Cyrocloud
02-15-08, 09:40 AM Hey I am making this one piece influenced world and have been struggleing to make appropriate devil fruit templates.

Basics for Devil Fruit templates

Devil fruit are minor artifacts that once eaten aply special abilities to a creature. These templates should range between +1-3 LA (A few may be 4)

Here is the first one I've been working on.

Hanna Hanna Fruit
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/5/54/HanaHanaNoMi.png/200px-HanaHanaNoMi.png
+2 LA
Ability mods: none
Granted abilities: You gain 2 arms per HD per encounter. You may spend a full round action to regain 2*your level amount of arms. These arms can be used in a multitude of ways. (these can not be used to wield weapons or to strike opponents.) These arms must come out of a solid surface within a 30' radius and each one lasts for only 5 rounds plus one round per point of constitution modifier.

Extend reach(Su): The arms may be used to extend your reach. You may use 2 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a one handed or light weapon or 4 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a two-handed or double-weapon. This ability lasts for 2 rounds plus one round per point of constitution modifier. Activating this abilities is a move action.

Grapple(Su): You can use a touch attack to grapple foes at a distance. This grapple attempt uses your base attack bonus plus 1/2 your str bonus (Min +1) for each arm used. This takes a standard action to activate. For every 2 extra HD you have after 1st you may grapple another foe.(exmp. with 3 HD you may grapple 2 opponents with one use of this technique.) It persists as long as you maintain concentration on it or until the normal time for these arms expires.

Flight (Su): You must have at least 10 HD to perform this. You use 10 arms to create wings on your back. This gives you a speed equal to your land speed with average maneuverbility. This last for 3+ your con mod rounds. For every extra 12 arms used to power this ability you may add an additional 5 rounds to your flight. For every extra 12 arms used you may increase the fly speed by 6 or the maneuverbility by 1 step.

Weakness (Ex): Some one who consumes a devil fruit of any kind cannot swim and is unable to use any of their powers if immersed in water. If only a single body part is in water then your powers can not effect the body part.

I still have a few abilities to figure out, like creating eyes and ears, and that little crunch ability as seen the anime, but what do you guys think of this.

Sorry the pic is kinda bad, but looking this up on google images wasn't the best idea with my parents in the room...Damn google images.
M-bark
02-15-08, 09:58 AM An interesting choice to go for something, but...

Hanna Hanna Fruit
+2 LA
Ability mods: none
Granted abilities: You gain 5 arms per HD per encounter. You may spend a full round action to regain 2*your level amount of arms. These arms can be used in a multitude of ways.

5 arms PER HD you have PER encounter? So every time you would encounter a new monster you would gain 5 extra arms per HD?
Cyrocloud
02-15-08, 10:54 AM The total amount of arms granted is 5 per HD. They are refreshed after an encounter. Similar to both martial maneuvers in the respect that they per encounter, and at the same time are like power points in the way that more can be added to modify an ability.
EvilVegan
02-15-08, 11:01 AM Ok. What?

Arms becoming wings? Having multiple arms gives you longer arms? You grapple dozens of people at once with no penalty? You turn your arms in to ropes?

What?!

I really don't understand what this is supposed to look like. . . a hecatonchires? With morphing, detachable, reshapable, regrowing limbs?

What does fruit or devils have to do with anything?

I think I'm missing the cultural reference, or if there isn't one you're not including enough information.
Cyrocloud
02-15-08, 11:12 AM It is based of One Piece an anime/manga. It is mention in the op but it is not heavily explained here is a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_fruit)to some info on devil fruit. I'll through a pick in top.
M-bark
02-15-08, 11:19 AM 5 extra arms per HD would grant a higher LA than +2, I'd think. If you took Multiattack as a feat and then some more, you could strike a helluva lotta opponents in a single round without breaking a sweat. And that is when not even looking at the no-penalty Grapple AT RANGE and FLYING as well.

It may be a nice idea, but it needs reworking. Remember that some things from anime don't lend themselves too well into being worked into DnD.
Cyrocloud
02-15-08, 11:27 AM Were does it say they could weild multiple weapons? I don't think they would last long enough to be equiped and then attack. I guess It would be feasible to use unarmed strike at a distance, I'll probably reward some stuff. The flying ability is pretty much crap though. You can fly for like what 5-10 rounds in an encounter and use almost all you arms for a mediocre fly speed and maneuverbillity and if you wish to increase it you end up uses almost all of your arms, heck you wouldn't even be able to get good maneuveriblity untill you have 12 HD by that time you probably could afford a magic item to grant flight. That ability is more of fluff than mechanics.
EvilVegan
02-15-08, 01:35 PM Ok, I should've guessed anything that "quirky" (being nice) had to be from One Piece. :rolleyes:

Anyway. . .

Were does it say they could weild multiple weapons? I don't think they would last long enough to be equiped and then attack.Where does it say they last any amount of time?

If they're arms, why can't they attack? Do they not have hands? Is it magically restricted?

Why do they have ranged touch attacks? If they aren't used at distance (I don't see any ranged attacks) then they need to be melee touch attacks.

Why can he grapple multiple people but not stab them?

This doesn't make sense:
Extend reach(Su): The arms may be used to extend ones reach 2arms=natural reach so if you were medium and used 2 arms to feul this use you would gain an additional 5ft of reach for a one handed or light weapon weapon. you must use twice the amount for double weapons. This ability last for 2+con mod rounds. This ability can also be used for creating ropes. This takes a move action to activate.

How about:
Extend reach(Su): The arms may be used to extend your reach. You may use 2 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a one handed or light weapon or 4 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a two-handed or double-weapon. This ability lasts for 2 rounds plus one round per point of constitution modifier. Activating this abilities is a move action.

I have absolutely no idea what you mean about the rope thing. Do the arms detach, or do they just give you slightly longer reach for things like jump checks?

Or do you use the extra arms to weave rope?

The "arms per encounter" and "arm regrowth" mechanic is odd and unnecessary. Why make it more complex than it needs to be? Do they really "lose" the arms when they "use" them?

Like I grapple the 11 people and then one of them makes a successful grapple check, do all of my arms just disappear?

How does this grapple work? Am I considered grappled? Do I get a-20 penalty for using only a part of my body?

Personally I think it would make more sense to grant a +1 bonus to grapple checks per 5 arms rather than the ability to grapple multiple opponents. There is no reason to think that a medium sized creature should be able to grapple 11 medium sized creatures (only 8 of which can be within 5 feet).

You do realize people will have between 5 and 380 arms on a medium-sized body. 380 arms.

BTW, One Piece, sucks. :P
Cyrocloud
02-15-08, 07:06 PM Thanks your right about the extend reach thing. It didn't make that much sense when I wrote it either. The rope think shouldnt' of been under that section. The rope thing in the anime anyway was an arm would either sprout from a surface or the palm of the persons hand and then anotherone would sprout from the palm of that hand and so on to create a "rope". Also I forgot to add the weakness thing my bad. I also added some small edits.
EvilVegan
02-18-08, 09:16 AM Bamboo Staff Fall (Su): You can use your arms to safely lower yourself from great heights. You grow multiple arms in a chain with each new arm sprouting from the palm of the proceeding arm. Using this feature you can safely lower yourself 5' for every two arms you expend. This is a full-round action.
Japan_the_cougar
02-19-08, 04:47 PM I had a friend who tried making "mutation prestige classes" by portioning out the powers over levels. He only did the Gomu-gomu fruit, as well as a Santoryu Master prestige. Now, I can't remember what either do for the life of me, but the "artifact template" idea you have seems to work a lot better.

Now, I got a friend here with me, whom I agree with, that the number of extra arms should be lowered to 2 or 1 per HD, and reducing the number of arms needed to make wings down to 10 or 15. My reasoning for this is based on PinkTaco's Ecchinobi class in the Mature forums.

Also, the arms should only be able to perform unarmed attacks or grab things. Also, there needs to be a limit as to how far out you can make the arms appear, like out to a 30' radius from yourself, or something.

Honestly, you should have started this with an easier ability, like the Baku-baku fruit (bite attack, endless gullet, reforming objects) or the transform powers (basically lycanthrophy with different creatures).
Cyrocloud
02-19-08, 05:26 PM Yeah I've been playing around with lowering the Arms or giving them an ac and HP so that if they are destroyed you take a small amount of damage. I'm leaning towards lowering the amounts though. I never though of the radius thing thats pretty smart.

The reason why I started with the Hana-Hana was because Some one asked for it. The Santoryu thing was something I was thinking about starting after I got most the templates done.

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Cyrocloud 02-15-08, 09:40 AM	Hey I am making this one piece influenced world and have been struggleing to make appropriate devil fruit templates. Basics for Devil Fruit templates Devil fruit are minor artifacts that once eaten aply special abilities to a creature. These templates should range between +1-3 LA (A few may be 4) Here is the first one I've been working on. Hanna Hanna Fruit http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/5/54/HanaHanaNoMi.png/200px-HanaHanaNoMi.png +2 LA Ability mods: none Granted abilities: You gain 2 arms per HD per encounter. You may spend a full round action to regain 2*your level amount of arms. These arms can be used in a multitude of ways. (these can not be used to wield weapons or to strike opponents.) These arms must come out of a solid surface within a 30' radius and each one lasts for only 5 rounds plus one round per point of constitution modifier. Extend reach(Su): The arms may be used to extend your reach. You may use 2 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a one handed or light weapon or 4 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a two-handed or double-weapon. This ability lasts for 2 rounds plus one round per point of constitution modifier. Activating this abilities is a move action. Grapple(Su): You can use a touch attack to grapple foes at a distance. This grapple attempt uses your base attack bonus plus 1/2 your str bonus (Min +1) for each arm used. This takes a standard action to activate. For every 2 extra HD you have after 1st you may grapple another foe.(exmp. with 3 HD you may grapple 2 opponents with one use of this technique.) It persists as long as you maintain concentration on it or until the normal time for these arms expires. Flight (Su): You must have at least 10 HD to perform this. You use 10 arms to create wings on your back. This gives you a speed equal to your land speed with average maneuverbility. This last for 3+ your con mod rounds. For every extra 12 arms used to power this ability you may add an additional 5 rounds to your flight. For every extra 12 arms used you may increase the fly speed by 6 or the maneuverbility by 1 step. Weakness (Ex): Some one who consumes a devil fruit of any kind cannot swim and is unable to use any of their powers if immersed in water. If only a single body part is in water then your powers can not effect the body part. I still have a few abilities to figure out, like creating eyes and ears, and that little crunch ability as seen the anime, but what do you guys think of this. Sorry the pic is kinda bad, but looking this up on google images wasn't the best idea with my parents in the room...Damn google images.
M-bark 02-15-08, 09:58 AM	An interesting choice to go for something, but... Hanna Hanna Fruit +2 LA Ability mods: none Granted abilities: You gain 5 arms per HD per encounter. You may spend a full round action to regain 2*your level amount of arms. These arms can be used in a multitude of ways. 5 arms PER HD you have PER encounter? So every time you would encounter a new monster you would gain 5 extra arms per HD?
Cyrocloud 02-15-08, 10:54 AM	The total amount of arms granted is 5 per HD. They are refreshed after an encounter. Similar to both martial maneuvers in the respect that they per encounter, and at the same time are like power points in the way that more can be added to modify an ability.
EvilVegan 02-15-08, 11:01 AM	Ok. What? Arms becoming wings? Having multiple arms gives you longer arms? You grapple dozens of people at once with no penalty? You turn your arms in to ropes? What?! I really don't understand what this is supposed to look like. . . a hecatonchires? With morphing, detachable, reshapable, regrowing limbs? What does fruit or devils have to do with anything? I think I'm missing the cultural reference, or if there isn't one you're not including enough information.
Cyrocloud 02-15-08, 11:12 AM	It is based of One Piece an anime/manga. It is mention in the op but it is not heavily explained here is a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_fruit)to some info on devil fruit. I'll through a pick in top.
M-bark 02-15-08, 11:19 AM	5 extra arms per HD would grant a higher LA than +2, I'd think. If you took Multiattack as a feat and then some more, you could strike a helluva lotta opponents in a single round without breaking a sweat. And that is when not even looking at the no-penalty Grapple AT RANGE and FLYING as well. It may be a nice idea, but it needs reworking. Remember that some things from anime don't lend themselves too well into being worked into DnD.
Cyrocloud 02-15-08, 11:27 AM	Were does it say they could weild multiple weapons? I don't think they would last long enough to be equiped and then attack. I guess It would be feasible to use unarmed strike at a distance, I'll probably reward some stuff. The flying ability is pretty much crap though. You can fly for like what 5-10 rounds in an encounter and use almost all you arms for a mediocre fly speed and maneuverbillity and if you wish to increase it you end up uses almost all of your arms, heck you wouldn't even be able to get good maneuveriblity untill you have 12 HD by that time you probably could afford a magic item to grant flight. That ability is more of fluff than mechanics.
EvilVegan 02-15-08, 01:35 PM	Ok, I should've guessed anything that "quirky" (being nice) had to be from One Piece. :rolleyes: Anyway. . . Were does it say they could weild multiple weapons? I don't think they would last long enough to be equiped and then attack.Where does it say they last any amount of time? If they're arms, why can't they attack? Do they not have hands? Is it magically restricted? Why do they have ranged touch attacks? If they aren't used at distance (I don't see any ranged attacks) then they need to be melee touch attacks. Why can he grapple multiple people but not stab them? This doesn't make sense: Extend reach(Su): The arms may be used to extend ones reach 2arms=natural reach so if you were medium and used 2 arms to feul this use you would gain an additional 5ft of reach for a one handed or light weapon weapon. you must use twice the amount for double weapons. This ability last for 2+con mod rounds. This ability can also be used for creating ropes. This takes a move action to activate. How about: Extend reach(Su): The arms may be used to extend your reach. You may use 2 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a one handed or light weapon or 4 arms to extend your natural reach 5' with a two-handed or double-weapon. This ability lasts for 2 rounds plus one round per point of constitution modifier. Activating this abilities is a move action. I have absolutely no idea what you mean about the rope thing. Do the arms detach, or do they just give you slightly longer reach for things like jump checks? Or do you use the extra arms to weave rope? The "arms per encounter" and "arm regrowth" mechanic is odd and unnecessary. Why make it more complex than it needs to be? Do they really "lose" the arms when they "use" them? Like I grapple the 11 people and then one of them makes a successful grapple check, do all of my arms just disappear? How does this grapple work? Am I considered grappled? Do I get a-20 penalty for using only a part of my body? Personally I think it would make more sense to grant a +1 bonus to grapple checks per 5 arms rather than the ability to grapple multiple opponents. There is no reason to think that a medium sized creature should be able to grapple 11 medium sized creatures (only 8 of which can be within 5 feet). You do realize people will have between 5 and 380 arms on a medium-sized body. 380 arms. BTW, One Piece, sucks. :P
Cyrocloud 02-15-08, 07:06 PM	Thanks your right about the extend reach thing. It didn't make that much sense when I wrote it either. The rope think shouldnt' of been under that section. The rope thing in the anime anyway was an arm would either sprout from a surface or the palm of the persons hand and then anotherone would sprout from the palm of that hand and so on to create a "rope". Also I forgot to add the weakness thing my bad. I also added some small edits.
EvilVegan 02-18-08, 09:16 AM	Bamboo Staff Fall (Su): You can use your arms to safely lower yourself from great heights. You grow multiple arms in a chain with each new arm sprouting from the palm of the proceeding arm. Using this feature you can safely lower yourself 5' for every two arms you expend. This is a full-round action.
Japan_the_cougar 02-19-08, 04:47 PM	I had a friend who tried making "mutation prestige classes" by portioning out the powers over levels. He only did the Gomu-gomu fruit, as well as a Santoryu Master prestige. Now, I can't remember what either do for the life of me, but the "artifact template" idea you have seems to work a lot better. Now, I got a friend here with me, whom I agree with, that the number of extra arms should be lowered to 2 or 1 per HD, and reducing the number of arms needed to make wings down to 10 or 15. My reasoning for this is based on PinkTaco's Ecchinobi class in the Mature forums. Also, the arms should only be able to perform unarmed attacks or grab things. Also, there needs to be a limit as to how far out you can make the arms appear, like out to a 30' radius from yourself, or something. Honestly, you should have started this with an easier ability, like the Baku-baku fruit (bite attack, endless gullet, reforming objects) or the transform powers (basically lycanthrophy with different creatures).
Cyrocloud 02-19-08, 05:26 PM	Yeah I've been playing around with lowering the Arms or giving them an ac and HP so that if they are destroyed you take a small amount of damage. I'm leaning towards lowering the amounts though. I never though of the radius thing thats pretty smart. The reason why I started with the Hana-Hana was because Some one asked for it. The Santoryu thing was something I was thinking about starting after I got most the templates done.